Tim/DED--
This one came back through to me INSTANTLY, the next two, not yet.
TNE list: please accept my apologies for cluttering up the list with
"debugging tests," I will stop shortly.
Dave
> Tim/DED--
>
> It came through, but: a) it wasn't from me, b) it may have come through
> after a long delay, and c) scroll down and look at all of the e-mail
> header/code junk that came through that does NOT normally come through on
> these things.
>
> Note that code was also on Eamon's original, but the fact that it was
> appended at some point might be a sign of something working strangely
> somewhere.
>
> Eamon--I will answer you, but am trying to help sort through the "spam"
> problem first.
>
> Dave
>
>> this one came through okay ... amazing! color me confuzzled
>> Tim
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>> On Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:30 AM, Eamon Watters
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> Â
>>>I wasn't running a campaign, more trying to flesh out how the Covenant
>>> operated.
>>>I got the feeling, from the folio adventure with the Ref's Screen and
> the
>>> Challenge 76 piece, that their overwhelming effort was focused on
> securing the approaches to the Covenant. I thought the jump naval
> assets
>>> they had were not enough on their own to do this. I used the references
> to extensive use of outposts to craft weapon-controlling variants as a
> major part of interdicting fuel sources. So in a system with 3 gas
> giants
>>> there might be an outpost at each one - each outpost controlling
> missile
>>> packs in close orbit of the giant. Outposts would be small, probably
> based on modular cutter pods, and as stealthy as possible. Each system
> in
>>> the cluster containing Sufren and Haze would probably have a
> jump-capable
>>> ship on station, either to provide back-up, or to courier a warning if
> a
>>> large incursion was in progress.
>>>To support such ventures I thought many of the Covenant Scout/Couriers
>>> would have been modified to carry a cutter module (a big modification
> when you consider the internal layout), and ships like the Donosevs and
> the Broadswords not only assisting with their cutter capabilities, but
> also using grapples to carry more outpost material at reduced jump.
>>>Talking of outposts, how did you see the Covenant using them? Listening
>>> stations were mentioned as being extensive, and I figured they dumped
> data to ships running sweeps, with the data transferred back down the
> line to the Covenant. I'm not even sure if the stations were supposed
> to
>>> be manned, but in the NE I guess that could be seen as essential.
>>>Also mentioned were Scout Service outposts, to aid recontact with the
>>> wilds. I saw these as staging posts, and probably not located in target
> systems, but if you have any recollections on them, I'm all ears.
>>>I did do a little bit of expansion of the RC/Covenant storyline, but in
> a
>>> very hazy way. I reckoned that once they saw what the RC had done,
> albeit
>>> with help from the Hivers, they would start to pursue an aggressive
> shipbuilding strategy, and so some smash & grabbing. However, the
> latter
>>> would be tempered a little by the fact that the Covenant seems less
> dogmatic with regards to government types, having two charismatic
> dictatorships and one democracy. People the RC would have no problem
> hitting hard might get diplomatic approaches from the Covenant.
>>>I disliked the way the Covenant was toasted in the Avenger timeline, so
> I
>>> ignored that. However, I didn't really do any solid timelining. I did
> however do a draft of the Belladonna's mission to Sufren, hitting lots
> of
>>> the interesting systems in Thoezzent and Promise L, H, and D on the
> way.
>>>How did you see things going? The Covenant absorbed? The RC morphing
> into
>>> an alliance of states? Something else?
>>>Eamon
>>>--------------------------------------------
>>>On Tue, 18/3/14, <> wrote:
>>>Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Jump route maps (was Re: Since Dave N is
>
>>> feeling talkative)
>>>To:
>>>Date: Tuesday, 18 March, 2014, 13:10
>>>Â
>>>Eamon--
>>>I agree, that is another significant consideration, and one
>>>which my
>>>described maps would only capture if you did that in
>>>advance, or did it
>>>carefully, looking for those indicators. But you are
>>>correct, that is the
>>>way you SHOULD do them to be perfectly accurate. While most
>>>ships can
>>>easily do a gas giant, having to bust up ice asteroids or
>>>land in a water
>>>ocean is different.
>>>How did things work out for the Covenant in your campaign? I
>>>recently saw
>>>that Avenger did a New Era adventure on the RC heading out
>>>to meet them.
>>>> On a slightly related note, during my intensive phase
>>>of obsession with
>>>> the Covenant of Sufren, I made a map with systems
>>>having difficult
>>>> frontier refuelling partially shaded, as I felt that
>>>would affect the flow
>>>> of vampire ships and the Covenant's posture against
>>>them. For some reason
>>>> I've never really needed route maps, but I can be
>>>fooled by a system that
>>>> seems to provide a nice link on a route, but which is
>>>bone-dry(-ish).
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