Seriously, just get on a bus in your average European or North American city and you'll find that the Neanderthal's are alive and well and living among us. I've seen a number of guys with brown ridges that a Neanderthal would be proud to have.
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From: allen carpenter <
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> update for more on where the Neanderthal went
> We have met the enemy, and made babies with them 8-)))
> looks like fairly solid proof on "compatibility issues"
> Unless your ancestry is pure African that is.
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>
http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics-neanderthal-110718.html
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> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:13 PM, allen carpenter
> <
>wrote:
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> > and within limits, about as smart in some respects. however,
> as they
> > appeared to be specialized for colder climes, they might be
> less adaptable
> > than their modern cousins, us. So, IF the Ancients made off
> with some
> > Neanderthals, their chances of survival would have been
> markedly different
> > than modern Homo sapiens. they would have been only likely to
> survive on
> > large terrestrials with plenty of game in whatever passed for
> an Ice age on
> > said world.
> > Hmmmmmm, I just recently re read the vilani vargr book put out for
> > megatravellers, and it seems that some Vilani physical
> characteristics match
> > with Neanderthals. being shorter and stockier that is. makes
> me go off in
> > speculation mode .........
> > for example, evidence, that while genetically divergent from
> homo saps,
> > there was at least 1 instance of interfertility, perhaps 2.
> > It could also be speculated that the human Minor races that
> DIDN'T develop
> > jump drive, had more of the inability to adapt of
> Neanderthals. which could
> > explain, why after 1,000 years of the third imperium, you
> still had worlds
> > in the core that suffered from "TECH LAG"
> > Maybe they were there all along 8-\???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:58 PM, lordomatic
> <
> wrote:
> >
> >> **
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually they had comparable brain capacity to modern humans.
> >>
> >> Check out this site and look at the Morphology section to see
> >> physiological differences of Homo Neanderthalensis and Homo
> Sapiens.>>
> >>
http://www.ecotao.com/holism/hu_neand.htm
> >>
> >> Also this site has some info on them as well...
> >>
http://archaeologyinfo.com/homo-neanderthalensis/
> >>
> >> Essentially, they were stronger than Homo Sapiens.
> >>
> >> Mark
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In
, Tim O'Reilly
> <ret7army@...> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Other than brain capacity what other distinguishing
> characteristics were
> >> there between Neanderthal and modern man?
> >> > Â
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >________________________________
From: allen carpenter justacarpenter@...
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] DNA ideas
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Â
> >> > >I had thought of Avian Human Hybrids, but my Imagination
> has them being
> >> even less human than other animal hybrids. that, and birds
> are the heirs
> >> apparent of the dino world.
> >> > >
> >> > >as far as ancient humans, so called Cro Magnon??????
> >> > >that's what my Simian world is going to reflect, the one planet
> >> genassist had established to observe societal evolution and
> development>> phase.
> >> > >did you know that Neanderthals brain cavity, on average,
> was larger
> >> than modern Homo Sapiens?????
> >> > >I wonder if I should throw them out here in the Rimward
> end of
> >> nowhere??????
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:46 AM, roger
> <rogerclarktopaz@...> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >Â
> >> > >>Bees, some scientists think that if man disappeared from
> Earth that
> >> bees would take over, something to do with their hive
> mentality I guess.
> >> > >>If you want to add humans to the mix. I watched a Si-Fi
> show called
> >> "Chameleon" basically the show revolved around a woman raised
> from birth by
> >> a shadow organization (Sol Sec??). Her DNA was mixed with
> animal DNA
> >> primarily chameleon DNA that allowed her to blend in at will
> with her
> >> surroundings. Trained as an assassin she rebelled and went
> after her old
> >> bosses.
> >> > >>What ever happened to early-man? They just up and
> disappeared. Did the
> >> Ancients move them to your world? Maybe your world is a
> little tough on them
> >> and they are small in numbers.
> >> > >>How about Mermen, rimward of the Coalition is a planet
> with humans
> >> that have been genetically altered to live and breath water.
> >> > >>Pterodactyls, there is something about a bird with a 20+
> foot wing
> >> span a 3+ foot beak and talons that could rip the hide off---
> well anything,
> >> that sends chills up my spine. Again, maybe the Ancients
> moves some of them
> >> to your world.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>As to a Solomani Lab-ship. I'm not sure which Traveller
> you are using
> >> CT, MT, TNE. But the following sites are some of my
> favorites. Freelance
> >> Traveller supports all forms of Traveller and they have some
> very good
> >> ships.
> >> > >>
http://freelancetraveller.com
> >> > >>Missouri Archive, has good TL-16 ships, like
> Diplomatic/First Contact
> >> ships, that might help. Just use this address, then go to
> Missouri Archive,
> >> then TNE, then FFS Designs, and scroll to near the bottom.
> >> > >>
http://traveller.mu.org
> >> > >>Roger
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >--
> >> > >"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred
> megawatt>> laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided
> thermonuclear bombs. Some
> >> people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just
> borrowed his
> >> SMITE button for our fire control system."
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred
> megawatt laser
> > beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs.
> Some people say
> > we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his
> SMITE button
> > for our fire control system."
> >
>
>
>
> --
> "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred
> megawatt laser
> beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs.
> Some people say
> we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his
> SMITE button
> for our fire control system."
>