update for more on where the Neanderthal went
We have met the enemy, and made babies with them 8-)))
looks like fairly solid proof on "compatibility issues"
Unless your ancestry is pure African that is.
http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics-neanderthal-110718.html
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 3:13 PM, allen carpenter
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> and within limits, about as smart in some respects. however, as they
> appeared to be specialized for colder climes, they might be less adaptable
> than their modern cousins, us. So, IF the Ancients made off with some
> Neanderthals, their chances of survival would have been markedly different
> than modern Homo sapiens. they would have been only likely to survive on
> large terrestrials with plenty of game in whatever passed for an Ice age on
> said world.
> Hmmmmmm, I just recently re read the vilani vargr book put out for
> megatravellers, and it seems that some Vilani physical characteristics match
> with Neanderthals. being shorter and stockier that is. makes me go off in
> speculation mode .........
> for example, evidence, that while genetically divergent from homo saps,
> there was at least 1 instance of interfertility, perhaps 2.
> It could also be speculated that the human Minor races that DIDN'T develop
> jump drive, had more of the inability to adapt of Neanderthals. which could
> explain, why after 1,000 years of the third imperium, you still had worlds
> in the core that suffered from "TECH LAG"
> Maybe they were there all along 8-\???
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> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 1:58 PM, lordomatic <> wrote:
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>> Actually they had comparable brain capacity to modern humans.
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>> Check out this site and look at the Morphology section to see
>> physiological differences of Homo Neanderthalensis and Homo Sapiens.
>>
>> http://www.ecotao.com/holism/hu_neand.htm
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>> Also this site has some info on them as well...
>> http://archaeologyinfo.com/homo-neanderthalensis/
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>> Essentially, they were stronger than Homo Sapiens.
>>
>> Mark
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>> --- In , Tim O'Reilly <ret7army@...> wrote:
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>> > Other than brain capacity what other distinguishing characteristics were
>> there between Neanderthal and modern man?
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From: allen carpenter justacarpenter@...
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] DNA ideas
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>> > >�
>> > >I had thought of Avian Human Hybrids, but my Imagination has them being
>> even less human than other animal hybrids. that, and birds are the heirs
>> apparent of the dino world.
>> > >
>> > >as far as ancient humans, so called Cro Magnon??????
>> > >that's what my Simian world is going to reflect, the one planet
>> genassist had established to observe societal evolution and development
>> phase.
>> > >did you know that Neanderthals brain cavity, on average, was larger
>> than modern Homo Sapiens?????
>> > >I wonder if I should throw them out here in the Rimward end of
>> nowhere??????
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>> > >On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 8:46 AM, roger <rogerclarktopaz@...> wrote:
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>> > >>Bees, some scientists think that if man disappeared from Earth that
>> bees would take over, something to do with their hive mentality I guess.
>> > >>If you want to add humans to the mix. I watched a Si-Fi show called
>> "Chameleon" basically the show revolved around a woman raised from birth by
>> a shadow organization (Sol Sec??). Her DNA was mixed with animal DNA
>> primarily chameleon DNA that allowed her to blend in at will with her
>> surroundings. Trained as an assassin she rebelled and went after her old
>> bosses.
>> > >>What ever happened to early-man? They just up and disappeared. Did the
>> Ancients move them to your world? Maybe your world is a little tough on them
>> and they are small in numbers.
>> > >>How about Mermen, rimward of the Coalition is a planet with humans
>> that have been genetically altered to live and breath water.
>> > >>Pterodactyls, there is something about a bird with a 20+ foot wing
>> span a 3+ foot beak and talons that could rip the hide off---well anything,
>> that sends chills up my spine. Again, maybe the Ancients moves some of them
>> to your world.
>> > >>
>> > >>As to a Solomani Lab-ship. I'm not sure which Traveller you are using
>> CT, MT, TNE. But the following sites are some of my favorites. Freelance
>> Traveller supports all forms of Traveller and they have some very good
>> ships.
>> > >>http://freelancetraveller.com
>> > >>Missouri Archive, has good TL-16 ships, like Diplomatic/First Contact
>> ships, that might help. Just use this address, then go to Missouri Archive,
>> then TNE, then FFS Designs, and scroll to near the bottom.
>> > >>http://traveller.mu.org
>> > >>Roger
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>> > >--
>> > >"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred megawatt
>> laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some
>> people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his
>> SMITE button for our fire control system."
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> "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred megawatt laser
> beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say
> we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his SMITE button
> for our fire control system."
>
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"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our diposal hundred megawatt laser
beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say
we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his SMITE button
for our fire control system."