I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to shame.
I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't want you to get in any trouble.
>>
>> \_/
>> DED
>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>>
>>
>>
>> ---In , <> wrote :
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought out
>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>>
>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll be
>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>> Freelance Traveller
>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>>
>>
>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>>
>>
>>
>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>> referenced materials is not intended to
>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>>
>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>> enterprises for hosting services:
>>
>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>
>
Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot creation rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those rules.
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPhone...
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to shame.
>
> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
>
> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
>
> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't want you to get in any trouble.
>>>
>>> \_/
>>> DED
>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---In , <> wrote :
>>>
>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought out
>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>>>
>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll be
>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>>> Freelance Traveller
>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>>> referenced materials is not intended to
>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>>>
>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>>> enterprises for hosting services:
>>>
>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>
>
You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this while PG traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you there is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans going on.
Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of water and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny Frank! Dave's not here.
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPhone...
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot creation rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those rules.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to shame.
>>
>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
>>
>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
>>
>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff,
>>>>
>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't want you to get in any trouble.
>>>>
>>>> \_/
>>>> DED
>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---In , <> wrote :
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought out
>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>>>>
>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll be
>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>>>> Freelance Traveller
>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>>>>
>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
>>>>
>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>
>
On Tuesday, February 24, 2015 10:16 AM, "Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE]" <> wrote:
Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot creation rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those rules.
Derek StanleySent from my iPhone...
On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to shame.
I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
Derek StanleySent from my iPhone...
On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
Derek StanleySent from my iPad
On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Jeff,
Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't want you to get in any trouble.
\_/
DED
TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
---In , <> wrote :
On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
wrote:
>Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought out
>and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
>disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll be
happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
--
Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
Freelance Traveller
The Electronic Fan-Supported
Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
®Traveller is a registered trademark of
Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
the trademark in this notice and in the
referenced materials is not intended to
infringe or devalue the trademark.
Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
enterprises for hosting services:
CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
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There is obviously a lot of fictional sex being had by the fictive
quintillions in the Traveller universe, but that is well within the
referee's purview. I see enough ED ads and little girls wearing lingerie
as clothing in real life that I don't miss its official absence in an RPG.
The art angle is pretty much inevitable, I remember being annoyed by the
cover of Assignment: Vigilante. When I was younger I could recognize
specific men's magazine photos being used as artist's references and
assume it is still going on. A lot of artists made no secret of the fact
that they were just slumming illustrating wargames until they could get
into comic books, and formal art training focuses quite a bit on the human
form. I was mostly irritated that this focus prevented 90% of them from
drawing an automatic pistol whose slide could actually slide, or howitzer
whose carriage could work.
> You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this while PG
> traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
>
> 5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you there
> is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans going
> on.
>
> Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of water
> and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny Frank!
> Dave's not here.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley
>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>
>> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot creation
>> rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those
>> rules.
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>
>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley
>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the
>>> chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention
>>> I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters
>>> holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to
>>> shame.
>>>
>>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
>>>
>>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
>>>
>>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>
>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley
>>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and
>>>> Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>>>>
>>>> Derek Stanley
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
>>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeff,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has
>>>>> always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an
>>>>> R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't
>>>>> want you to get in any trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> \_/
>>>>> DED
>>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ---In , <>
>>>>> wrote :
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought
>>>>> out
>>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
>>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll
>>>>> be
>>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>>>>> Freelance Traveller
>>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
>>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>>>>>
>>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
>>>>>
>>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>>
>>
>
I'm big on equipment that wouldn't work. Bullpup rifles with ejection ports set right against the butt plate drive me bananas and pistol slides that wouldn't work without pulling your thumb off are high on my list.
The worst thing is I've never even owned a gun and I can spot impractical and poorly designed weapons.
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPhone...
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 09:42, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
> There is obviously a lot of fictional sex being had by the fictive
> quintillions in the Traveller universe, but that is well within the
> referee's purview. I see enough ED ads and little girls wearing lingerie
> as clothing in real life that I don't miss its official absence in an RPG.
> The art angle is pretty much inevitable, I remember being annoyed by the
> cover of Assignment: Vigilante. When I was younger I could recognize
> specific men's magazine photos being used as artist's references and
> assume it is still going on. A lot of artists made no secret of the fact
> that they were just slumming illustrating wargames until they could get
> into comic books, and formal art training focuses quite a bit on the human
> form. I was mostly irritated that this focus prevented 90% of them from
> drawing an automatic pistol whose slide could actually slide, or howitzer
> whose carriage could work.
>
> > You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this while PG
> > traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
> >
> > 5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you there
> > is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans going
> > on.
> >
> > Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of water
> > and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny Frank!
> > Dave's not here.
> >
> > Derek Stanley
> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >
> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley
> >> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot creation
> >> rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those
> >> rules.
> >>
> >> Derek Stanley
> >> Sent from my iPhone...
> >>
> >>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley
> >>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of the
> >>> chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to mention
> >>> I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in characters
> >>> holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to
> >>> shame.
> >>>
> >>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
> >>>
> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
> >>>
> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Derek Stanley
> >>> Sent from my iPhone...
> >>>
> >>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley
> >>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and
> >>>> Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
> >>>>
> >>>> Derek Stanley
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
> >>>>> <> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jeff,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM has
> >>>>> always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules (an
> >>>>> R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I don't
> >>>>> want you to get in any trouble.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> \_/
> >>>>> DED
> >>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ---In , <>
> >>>>> wrote :
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
> >>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well thought
> >>>>> out
> >>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a floppy
> >>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them), I'll
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
> >>>>> Freelance Traveller
> >>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
> >>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
> >>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
> >>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
> >>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
> >>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
> >>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
> >>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
> >>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
The funny thing is I think artists were more put out by my asking for
illos that worked than I was at having to stay on them. Some of that is
the logic of doing piecework for a living, you have to keep up throughput
to keep the checks coming. There's a similar dynamic among some freelance
writers, "I'm going to do enough to get the check, but no more."
> I'm big on equipment that wouldn't work. Bullpup rifles with ejection
> ports set right against the butt plate drive me bananas and pistol slides
> that wouldn't work without pulling your thumb off are high on my list.
>
> The worst thing is I've never even owned a gun and I can spot impractical
> and poorly designed weapons.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 09:42, [Traveller_TNE]
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> There is obviously a lot of fictional sex being had by the fictive
>> quintillions in the Traveller universe, but that is well within the
>> referee's purview. I see enough ED ads and little girls wearing
>> lingerie
>> as clothing in real life that I don't miss its official absence in an
>> RPG.
>> The art angle is pretty much inevitable, I remember being annoyed by
>> the
>> cover of Assignment: Vigilante. When I was younger I could recognize
>> specific men's magazine photos being used as artist's references and
>> assume it is still going on. A lot of artists made no secret of the
>> fact
>> that they were just slumming illustrating wargames until they could get
>> into comic books, and formal art training focuses quite a bit on the
>> human
>> form. I was mostly irritated that this focus prevented 90% of them from
>> drawing an automatic pistol whose slide could actually slide, or
>> howitzer
>> whose carriage could work.
>>
>> > You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this while
>> PG
>> > traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
>> >
>> > 5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you
>> there
>> > is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans
>> going
>> > on.
>> >
>> > Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of
>> water
>> > and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny Frank!
>> > Dave's not here.
>> >
>> > Derek Stanley
>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >
>> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley
>> >> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot
>> creation
>> >> rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those
>> >> rules.
>> >>
>> >> Derek Stanley
>> >> Sent from my iPhone...
>> >>
>> >>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley
>> >>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of
>> the
>> >>> chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to
>> mention
>> >>> I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in
>> characters
>> >>> holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to
>> >>> shame.
>> >>>
>> >>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
>> >>>
>> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
>> >>>
>> >>> Derek Stanley
>> >>> Sent from my iPhone...
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley
>> >>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and
>> >>>> Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Derek Stanley
>> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
>> >>>>> <> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jeff,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM
>> has
>> >>>>> always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules
>> (an
>> >>>>> R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I
>> don't
>> >>>>> want you to get in any trouble.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> \_/
>> >>>>> DED
>> >>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ---In ,
>> <>
>> >>>>> wrote :
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
>> >>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well
>> thought
>> >>>>> out
>> >>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a
>> floppy
>> >>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them),
>> I'll
>> >>>>> be
>> >>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>> >>>>> Freelance Traveller
>> >>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>> >>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>> >>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>> >>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>> >>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>> >>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
>> >>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>> >>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>> >>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
I seriously miss Brian Gibson's art from traveller, he was so amazing, such a huge loss.
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPhone...
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:42, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
> The funny thing is I think artists were more put out by my asking for
> illos that worked than I was at having to stay on them. Some of that is
> the logic of doing piecework for a living, you have to keep up throughput
> to keep the checks coming. There's a similar dynamic among some freelance
> writers, "I'm going to do enough to get the check, but no more."
>
> > I'm big on equipment that wouldn't work. Bullpup rifles with ejection
> > ports set right against the butt plate drive me bananas and pistol slides
> > that wouldn't work without pulling your thumb off are high on my list.
> >
> > The worst thing is I've never even owned a gun and I can spot impractical
> > and poorly designed weapons.
> >
> > Derek Stanley
> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >
> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 09:42, [Traveller_TNE]
> >> <> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is obviously a lot of fictional sex being had by the fictive
> >> quintillions in the Traveller universe, but that is well within the
> >> referee's purview. I see enough ED ads and little girls wearing
> >> lingerie
> >> as clothing in real life that I don't miss its official absence in an
> >> RPG.
> >> The art angle is pretty much inevitable, I remember being annoyed by
> >> the
> >> cover of Assignment: Vigilante. When I was younger I could recognize
> >> specific men's magazine photos being used as artist's references and
> >> assume it is still going on. A lot of artists made no secret of the
> >> fact
> >> that they were just slumming illustrating wargames until they could get
> >> into comic books, and formal art training focuses quite a bit on the
> >> human
> >> form. I was mostly irritated that this focus prevented 90% of them from
> >> drawing an automatic pistol whose slide could actually slide, or
> >> howitzer
> >> whose carriage could work.
> >>
> >> > You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this while
> >> PG
> >> > traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
> >> >
> >> > 5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you
> >> there
> >> > is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans
> >> going
> >> > on.
> >> >
> >> > Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of
> >> water
> >> > and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny Frank!
> >> > Dave's not here.
> >> >
> >> > Derek Stanley
> >> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >> >
> >> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley
> >> >> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot
> >> creation
> >> >> rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those
> >> >> rules.
> >> >>
> >> >> Derek Stanley
> >> >> Sent from my iPhone...
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley
> >> >>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home of
> >> the
> >> >>> chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to
> >> mention
> >> >>> I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in
> >> characters
> >> >>> holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to
> >> >>> shame.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
> >> >>>
> >> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Derek Stanley
> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley
> >> >>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and
> >> >>>> Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Derek Stanley
> >> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
> >> >>>>> <> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Jeff,
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that MM
> >> has
> >> >>>>> always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those rules
> >> (an
> >> >>>>> R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I
> >> don't
> >> >>>>> want you to get in any trouble.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> \_/
> >> >>>>> DED
> >> >>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ---In ,
> >> <>
> >> >>>>> wrote :
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
> >> >>>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for creating
> >> >>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well
> >> thought
> >> >>>>> out
> >> >>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a
> >> floppy
> >> >>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate them),
> >> I'll
> >> >>>>> be
> >> >>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
> >> >>>>> Freelance Traveller
> >> >>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
> >> >>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
> >> >>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
> >> >>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
> >> >>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
> >> >>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
> >> >>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
> >> >>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
> >> >>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
He was one of the relative minority who enjoyed tech illustrating. The sad
counter-point to that is that those people would have to put a lot of
thought into an illo, understanding how it worked internally before they
could draw it, and sometimes it would be misused and presented as
something else entirely (not during my tenure, I have some 2300 examples
in mind), which would not only make illos seem odd, but make the artist
feel misused, and this logically fed back into the adversarial
relationship that festered among some of the freelance community. The
frustration was real, and honest, and understandable, but sometimes the
negative energy was wearying. But in a perfect world we'd first be
tackling things a lot more important than RPGs.
> I seriously miss Brian Gibson's art from traveller, he was so amazing,
> such a huge loss.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:42, [Traveller_TNE]
>> <> wrote:
>>
>> The funny thing is I think artists were more put out by my asking for
>> illos that worked than I was at having to stay on them. Some of that is
>> the logic of doing piecework for a living, you have to keep up
>> throughput
>> to keep the checks coming. There's a similar dynamic among some
>> freelance
>> writers, "I'm going to do enough to get the check, but no more."
>>
>> > I'm big on equipment that wouldn't work. Bullpup rifles with ejection
>> > ports set right against the butt plate drive me bananas and pistol
>> slides
>> > that wouldn't work without pulling your thumb off are high on my
>> list.
>> >
>> > The worst thing is I've never even owned a gun and I can spot
>> impractical
>> > and poorly designed weapons.
>> >
>> > Derek Stanley
>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >
>> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 09:42, [Traveller_TNE]
>> >> <> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is obviously a lot of fictional sex being had by the fictive
>> >> quintillions in the Traveller universe, but that is well within the
>> >> referee's purview. I see enough ED ads and little girls wearing
>> >> lingerie
>> >> as clothing in real life that I don't miss its official absence in
>> an
>> >> RPG.
>> >> The art angle is pretty much inevitable, I remember being annoyed by
>> >> the
>> >> cover of Assignment: Vigilante. When I was younger I could recognize
>> >> specific men's magazine photos being used as artist's references and
>> >> assume it is still going on. A lot of artists made no secret of the
>> >> fact
>> >> that they were just slumming illustrating wargames until they could
>> get
>> >> into comic books, and formal art training focuses quite a bit on the
>> >> human
>> >> form. I was mostly irritated that this focus prevented 90% of them
>> from
>> >> drawing an automatic pistol whose slide could actually slide, or
>> >> howitzer
>> >> whose carriage could work.
>> >>
>> >> > You know I'm sitting at work, trying to be productive but this
>> while
>> >> PG
>> >> > traveller thing keeps popping up in my head.
>> >> >
>> >> > 5 people trapped in a tin can for a week straight. I guarantee you
>> >> there
>> >> > is a whole hell of a lot of inappropriate behavior and shenanigans
>> >> going
>> >> > on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Phrases like: Who shrink wrapped the head? Why is my boot full of
>> >> water
>> >> > and in the freezer? Filling my desk with confetti is not funny
>> Frank!
>> >> > Dave's not here.
>> >> >
>> >> > Derek Stanley
>> >> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:16, Derek Stanley
>> >> >> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Oh, as for the PG rules... Read the Mongoose Traveller robot
>> >> creation
>> >> >> rules... You can totally make that thing in the locker with those
>> >> >> rules.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Derek Stanley
>> >> >> Sent from my iPhone...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 07:12, Derek Stanley
>> >> >>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I feel compelled to point out that traveller has been the home
>> of
>> >> the
>> >> >>> chesty girl in the skin tight vac suit for 30+ years. Not to
>> >> mention
>> >> >>> I'm fairly certain the amount of illicit drugs smuggled in
>> >> characters
>> >> >>> holds over that time could put an number of Columbian cartels to
>> >> >>> shame.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I will leave you with the following two images to ponder.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/923795D8-A275-4CB5-A679-908F66B472E6_zpsvihvzy7t.jpg
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> http://i1370.photobucket.com/albums/ag248/Emberdawn/B101F386-869A-41E2-ACBA-BB9F2B2E2418_zpsedv239gn.jpg
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Derek Stanley
>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone...
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 06:56, Derek Stanley
>> >> >>>> [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Isn't this where Phill and Dixie come in trying to do Sex and
>> >> >>>> Traveller but always getting shut down before the final panel?
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>> Derek Stanley
>> >> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >> >>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Feb 24, 2015, at 6:45 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
>> >> >>>>> <> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Jeff,
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Is that safe? I know that there's been an unwritten rule that
>> MM
>> >> has
>> >> >>>>> always wanted Traveller to remain PG. Would posting those
>> rules
>> >> (an
>> >> >>>>> R-rated concept) be in violation of FFE's fan website terms? I
>> >> don't
>> >> >>>>> want you to get in any trouble.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> \_/
>> >> >>>>> DED
>> >> >>>>> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ---In ,
>> >> <>
>> >> >>>>> wrote :
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2015 05:37:33 +0000 (UTC), Harold Hale
>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> >Somewhere on a crashed hard drive lay the TNE rules for
>> creating
>> >> >>>>> >courtesans/prostitutes/and other sex workers. It was well
>> >> thought
>> >> >>>>> out
>> >> >>>>> >and if I ever manage to find a copy saved to a ZIP drive or a
>> >> floppy
>> >> >>>>> >disk, or hard copy some place, I'll post them here.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> If you copy me on them if when you find them (or recreate
>> them),
>> >> I'll
>> >> >>>>> be
>> >> >>>>> happy to give them a second home at Freelance Traveller...
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> --
>> >> >>>>> Jeff Zeitlin, Editor
>> >> >>>>> Freelance Traveller
>> >> >>>>> The Electronic Fan-Supported
>> >> >>>>> Traveller® Fanzine and Resource
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> http://www.freelancetraveller.com
>> >> >>>>> http://freelancetraveller.downport.com/
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> ®Traveller is a registered trademark of
>> >> >>>>> Far Future Enterprises, 1977-2014. Use of
>> >> >>>>> the trademark in this notice and in the
>> >> >>>>> referenced materials is not intended to
>> >> >>>>> infringe or devalue the trademark.
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> Freelance Traveller extends its thanks to the following
>> >> >>>>> enterprises for hosting services:
>> >> >>>>>
>> >> >>>>> CyberNET Web Hosting (http://www.cyberwebhosting.net)
>> >> >>>>> The Traveller Downport (http://www.downport.com)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>