Thread: Re: Eric Bould, CSEA Victrix

9 posts.

Uxi--

While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
while I was at GDW or thereafter?

Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.

> I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
> Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is in
> the BARD pages somewhere.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
>> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
>>
>> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
>> Fleets.
>>
>> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
>> some
>> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
>> all,
>> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap, Frank,
>> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
>>
>> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the "first
>> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could easily
>> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
>> way-way-advance
>> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
>>
>> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there huge
>> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT material
>> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank gave
>> two
>> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
>> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>>
>> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what I
>> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
>> but
>> we would have found a way to make it work.
>>
>> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a statement
>> at
>> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run on a
>> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
>> > intedict those who go on the run.
>> >
>> > Eamon
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------
>> > I think that's where the Solee
>> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
>> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>> >
>> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> >
>> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
>> > "Eamon Watters" <>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
>> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
>> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
>> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
>> > Vampire Highway.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Eamon
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him while you were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15 years back, a month before his 30th birthday.

He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the Pacific and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another who was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp flag in a box in his attic, very creepy.

Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
>
> Uxi--
>
> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>
> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
>
> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is in
> > the BARD pages somewhere.
> >
> > Derek Stanley
> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >
> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
> >>
> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
> >> Fleets.
> >>
> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
> >> some
> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
> >> all,
> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap, Frank,
> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
> >>
> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the "first
> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could easily
> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
> >> way-way-advance
> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
> >>
> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there huge
> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT material
> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank gave
> >> two
> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
> >>
> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what I
> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
> >> but
> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
> >>
> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a statement
> >> at
> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run on a
> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
> >> >
> >> > Eamon
> >> >
> >> > --------------------------------------------
> >> > I think that's where the Solee
> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
> >> >
> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
> >> >
> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
> >> > Vampire Highway.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Eamon
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
Wow, it was 1997 that Eric died, so 17 years ago. He went the same week as Lady Diana and Mother Teresa if I recall correctly.

Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 4, 2014, at 6:29 AM, DEREK STANLEY <> wrote:
>
> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him while you were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15 years back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>
> He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the Pacific and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another who was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp flag in a box in his attic, very creepy.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
>>
>>
>> Uxi--
>>
>> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>>
>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
>>
>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
>> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is in
>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>> >
>> > Derek Stanley
>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >
>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
>> >> Fleets.
>> >>
>> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
>> >> some
>> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
>> >> all,
>> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap, Frank,
>> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
>> >>
>> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the "first
>> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could easily
>> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
>> >> way-way-advance
>> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
>> >>
>> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there huge
>> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT material
>> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank gave
>> >> two
>> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
>> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>> >>
>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what I
>> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
>> >> but
>> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
>> >>
>> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a statement
>> >> at
>> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run on a
>> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
>> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
>> >> >
>> >> > Eamon
>> >> >
>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>> >> > I think that's where the Solee
>> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
>> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
>> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
>> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
>> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Eamon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
>
Derek--

After I sent the message below I noticed that although the COALINFONET
page and Eric Bould introduction was on Uxi's page, it looks like the
intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting that wrong.

As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind of warm feeling, but I could not
add any factual details so I feel sad about knowing here's someone I had a
connection to but don't know what it was. Cue another monologue from me
about memory...

So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD guys, and maybe wrote a lot
of the stories on that page?

I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking the shores of Aubaine, and
how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC keeps moving.

You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin Cain's scenario with the
BL-detailed scenario was particularly impressive with the planning
vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked up your own big pot of
alphabet soup for the various information categories, Lawrence Cox's color
RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of you guys may have been some of
the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and took the universe with him.
Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.

I notice some names in the BARD credits that are still around, but a lot
that I guess aren't anymore. But I did e-mail with Mark Marchi a few days
ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty consistently 1996, did all of
that creativity take place in the space of a year? As I've said before,
I'm both glad and surprised that you guys hung around this long.

Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It could have been me, but I was
hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few to begin with. When I wrote
the PoT ship section it was based on published metrics for tonnage of
ships that could be produced, and the RC was pushing those to begin with,
even with established fudge factors, so we couldn't afford to blow up too
many of them, even though the spear carrier/redshirt ethic (of which I'm
actually an anti-fan) required us to do so periodically just to keep
people on their toes.

> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him while you
> were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15 years
> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>
> He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on
> occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the Pacific
> and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another who
> was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp flag in
> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
>>
>> Uxi--
>>
>> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>>
>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
>>
>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
>> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is
>> in
>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>> >
>> > Derek Stanley
>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >
>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
>> >> Fleets.
>> >>
>> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
>> >> some
>> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
>> >> all,
>> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>> Frank,
>> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
>> >>
>> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the
>> "first
>> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>> easily
>> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
>> >> way-way-advance
>> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
>> >>
>> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there
>> huge
>> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT
>> material
>> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>> gave
>> >> two
>> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
>> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>> >>
>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what
>> I
>> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
>> >> but
>> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
>> >>
>> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>> statement
>> >> at
>> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run on
>> a
>> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
>> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
>> >> >
>> >> > Eamon
>> >> >
>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>> >> > I think that's where the Solee
>> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>> >> >
>> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> >> >
>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
>> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
>> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
>> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
>> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Eamon
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below. Should have been "Mike." Something
in my brain fell for a non-existent internal rhyme.

> Derek--
>
> After I sent the message below I noticed that although the COALINFONET
> page and Eric Bould introduction was on Uxi's page, it looks like the
> intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting that wrong.
>
> As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind of warm feeling, but I could not
> add any factual details so I feel sad about knowing here's someone I had a
> connection to but don't know what it was. Cue another monologue from me
> about memory...
>
> So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD guys, and maybe wrote a lot
> of the stories on that page?
>
> I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking the shores of Aubaine, and
> how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC keeps moving.
>
> You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin Cain's scenario with the
> BL-detailed scenario was particularly impressive with the planning
> vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked up your own big pot of
> alphabet soup for the various information categories, Lawrence Cox's color
> RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of you guys may have been some of
> the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and took the universe with him.
> Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
>
> I notice some names in the BARD credits that are still around, but a lot
> that I guess aren't anymore. But I did e-mail with Mark Marchi a few days
> ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty consistently 1996, did all of
> that creativity take place in the space of a year? As I've said before,
> I'm both glad and surprised that you guys hung around this long.
>
> Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It could have been me, but I was
> hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few to begin with. When I wrote
> the PoT ship section it was based on published metrics for tonnage of
> ships that could be produced, and the RC was pushing those to begin with,
> even with established fudge factors, so we couldn't afford to blow up too
> many of them, even though the spear carrier/redshirt ethic (of which I'm
> actually an anti-fan) required us to do so periodically just to keep
> people on their toes.
>
>
>> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him while
>> you
>> were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15 years
>> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>>
>> He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on
>> occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the Pacific
>> and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another who
>> was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp flag
>> in
>> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>> Uxi--
>>>
>>> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
>>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
>>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>>>
>>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>>> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
>>>
>>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
>>> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is
>>> in
>>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>>> >
>>> > Derek Stanley
>>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>>> >
>>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
>>> >> Fleets.
>>> >>
>>> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
>>> >> some
>>> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
>>> >> all,
>>> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>>> Frank,
>>> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
>>> >>
>>> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the
>>> "first
>>> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>>> easily
>>> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
>>> >> way-way-advance
>>> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
>>> >>
>>> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there
>>> huge
>>> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT
>>> material
>>> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>>> gave
>>> >> two
>>> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
>>> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>>> >>
>>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what
>>> I
>>> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
>>> >> but
>>> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
>>> >>
>>> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>>> statement
>>> >> at
>>> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run
>>> on
>>> a
>>> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
>>> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Eamon
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>>> >> > I think that's where the Solee
>>> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
>>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>>> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
>>> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
>>> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
>>> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
>>> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>>> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
>>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Eamon
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Mike Mikesh?

Sent from my iPad

On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:

> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below. Should have been "Mike." Something
> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal rhyme.
>
> > Derek--
> >
> > After I sent the message below I noticed that although the COALINFONET
> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on Uxi's page, it looks like the
> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting that wrong.
> >
> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind of warm feeling, but I could not
> > add any factual details so I feel sad about knowing here's someone I had a
> > connection to but don't know what it was. Cue another monologue from me
> > about memory...
> >
> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD guys, and maybe wrote a lot
> > of the stories on that page?
> >
> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking the shores of Aubaine, and
> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC keeps moving.
> >
> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin Cain's scenario with the
> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly impressive with the planning
> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked up your own big pot of
> > alphabet soup for the various information categories, Lawrence Cox's color
> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of you guys may have been some of
> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and took the universe with him.
> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
> >
> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that are still around, but a lot
> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did e-mail with Mark Marchi a few days
> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty consistently 1996, did all of
> > that creativity take place in the space of a year? As I've said before,
> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys hung around this long.
> >
> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It could have been me, but I was
> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few to begin with. When I wrote
> > the PoT ship section it was based on published metrics for tonnage of
> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was pushing those to begin with,
> > even with established fudge factors, so we couldn't afford to blow up too
> > many of them, even though the spear carrier/redshirt ethic (of which I'm
> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so periodically just to keep
> > people on their toes.
> >
> >
> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him while
> >> you
> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15 years
> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
> >>
> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on
> >> occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the Pacific
> >> and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another who
> >> was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp flag
> >> in
> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.
> >>
> >> Derek Stanley
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Uxi--
> >>>
> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET page
> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know him
> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
> >>>
> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
> >>> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
> >>>
> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan and
> >>> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization is
> >>> in
> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
> >>> >
> >>> > Derek Stanley
> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...
> >>> >
> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in Vampire
> >>> >> Fleets.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank put
> >>> >> some
> >>> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved them
> >>> >> all,
> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
> >>> Frank,
> >>> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
> >>> >>
> >>> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the
> >>> "first
> >>> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
> >>> easily
> >>> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
> >>> >> way-way-advance
> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there
> >>> huge
> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT
> >>> material
> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank
> >>> gave
> >>> >> two
> >>> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had to
> >>> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of what
> >>> I
> >>> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little sooner,
> >>> >> but
> >>> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
> >>> statement
> >>> >> at
> >>> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be run
> >>> on
> >>> a
> >>> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared to
> >>> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Eamon
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > I think that's where the Solee
> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
> >>> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
> >>> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
> >>> >> > wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
> >>> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
> >>> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
> >>> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Eamon
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
Blew up Eos?

> Mike Mikesh?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:
>
>> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below. Should have been "Mike."
>> Something
>> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal rhyme.
>>
>> > Derek--
>> >
>> > After I sent the message below I noticed that although the COALINFONET
>> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on Uxi's page, it looks like the
>> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting that wrong.
>> >
>> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind of warm feeling, but I could
>> not
>> > add any factual details so I feel sad about knowing here's someone I
>> had a
>> > connection to but don't know what it was. Cue another monologue from
>> me
>> > about memory...
>> >
>> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD guys, and maybe wrote a
>> lot
>> > of the stories on that page?
>> >
>> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking the shores of Aubaine,
>> and
>> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC keeps moving.
>> >
>> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin Cain's scenario with the
>> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly impressive with the planning
>> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked up your own big pot of
>> > alphabet soup for the various information categories, Lawrence Cox's
>> color
>> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of you guys may have been
>> some of
>> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and took the universe with
>> him.
>> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
>> >
>> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that are still around, but a
>> lot
>> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did e-mail with Mark Marchi a few
>> days
>> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty consistently 1996, did all
>> of
>> > that creativity take place in the space of a year? As I've said
>> before,
>> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys hung around this long.
>> >
>> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It could have been me, but I
>> was
>> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few to begin with. When I
>> wrote
>> > the PoT ship section it was based on published metrics for tonnage of
>> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was pushing those to begin
>> with,
>> > even with established fudge factors, so we couldn't afford to blow up
>> too
>> > many of them, even though the spear carrier/redshirt ethic (of which
>> I'm
>> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so periodically just to keep
>> > people on their toes.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if you didn't talk to him
>> while
>> >> you
>> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there after. He died about 15
>> years
>> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>> >>
>> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy who I still think about on
>> >> occasion to this day. He had one grandfather who fought in the
>> Pacific
>> >> and both knew and disliked "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another
>> who
>> >> was part of the army group that liberated Dachau. He had the camp
>> flag
>> >> in
>> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>> >>
>> >> Derek Stanley
>> >> Sent from my iPad
>> >>
>> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM, wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Uxi--
>> >>>
>> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD page I came across your COALINFONET
>> page
>> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I recognize that name, did I know
>> him
>> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>> >>>
>> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>> >>> favorite one, I never would have destroyed her.
>> >>>
>> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing the two names. Gabriella Ramastan
>> and
>> >>> > Christian Overtak or something very like that. The rationalization
>> is
>> >>> in
>> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Derek Stanley
>> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53, wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Just for the record, there was...an issue with the quotes in
>> Vampire
>> >>> >> Fleets.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Everything in there is true, and happened as written, but Frank
>> put
>> >>> >> some
>> >>> >> of those in at the last minute without my seeing them. I loved
>> them
>> >>> >> all,
>> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>> >>> Frank,
>> >>> >> that wasn't going to happen so soon!"
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> But we would have found a way to make it work. For example, the
>> >>> "first
>> >>> >> contact between RC and Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>> >>> easily
>> >>> >> massage that, where that date was the first contact of the
>> >>> >> way-way-advance
>> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies where the disagreements began.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> I had to do that sort of thing all the time. Not only were there
>> >>> huge
>> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies and contradictions in the CT and MT
>> >>> material
>> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>> >>> gave
>> >>> >> two
>> >>> >> at least two different names to the Queen of Solee, which I had
>> to
>> >>> >> rationalize, I think in COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are real and true, just not indicative of
>> what
>> >>> I
>> >>> >> believed the timeline would be, VF made them appear a little
>> sooner,
>> >>> >> but
>> >>> >> we would have found a way to make it work.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>> >>> statement
>> >>> >> at
>> >>> >> > the end of vampire fleets that the operation was going to be
>> run
>> >>> on
>> >>> a
>> >>> >> > shoestring. With that, it's hard to see ships able to be spared
>> to
>> >>> >> > intedict those who go on the run.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Eamon
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------
>> >>> >> > I think that's where the Solee
>> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN is going to be pretty formidable by
>> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>> >>> >> > out of the automated Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28 PM,
>> >>> >> > "Eamon Watters" <>
>> >>> >> > wrote:
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > True, though how effective a hunt for those on the
>> >>> >> > run could be is up for question. The EC value disparity
>> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario I plotted with a very special
>> >>> >> > inflitration team taking over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>> >>> >> > Virus which is the origin of the corewards traffic on the
>> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > Eamon
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>

I think that was Frank, it was in Vampire Fleets, IIRC.

The "Mike Mikesh" was in reference to Mark/Mike Marchi thing below, I hadn't heard of Mike Marchi before, thought that the name misremembering might have gone through several iterations.

Eamon
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 5/4/14, <> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Eric Bould, CSEA Victrix
To:
Date: Saturday, 5 April, 2014, 10:39


 









Blew up Eos?



> Mike Mikesh?

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:

>

>> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below.
Should have been "Mike."

>> Something

>> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal
rhyme.

>>

>> > Derek--

>> >

>> > After I sent the message below I noticed that
although the COALINFONET

>> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on
Uxi's page, it looks like the

>> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting
that wrong.

>> >

>> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind
of warm feeling, but I could

>> not

>> > add any factual details so I feel sad about
knowing here's someone I

>> had a

>> > connection to but don't know what it was.
Cue another monologue from

>> me

>> > about memory...

>> >

>> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD
guys, and maybe wrote a

>> lot

>> > of the stories on that page?

>> >

>> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking
the shores of Aubaine,

>> and

>> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC
keeps moving.

>> >

>> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin
Cain's scenario with the

>> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly
impressive with the planning

>> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked
up your own big pot of

>> > alphabet soup for the various information
categories, Lawrence Cox's

>> color

>> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of
you guys may have been

>> some of

>> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and
took the universe with

>> him.

>> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.

>> >

>> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that
are still around, but a

>> lot

>> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did
e-mail with Mark Marchi a few

>> days

>> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty
consistently 1996, did all

>> of

>> > that creativity take place in the space of a
year? As I've said

>> before,

>> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys
hung around this long.

>> >

>> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It
could have been me, but I

>> was

>> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few
to begin with. When I

>> wrote

>> > the PoT ship section it was based on published
metrics for tonnage of

>> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was
pushing those to begin

>> with,

>> > even with established fudge factors, so we
couldn't afford to blow up

>> too

>> > many of them, even though the spear
carrier/redshirt ethic (of which

>> I'm

>> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so
periodically just to keep

>> > people on their toes.

>> >

>> >

>> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if
you didn't talk to him

>> while

>> >> you

>> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there
after. He died about 15

>> years

>> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.

>> >>

>> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy
who I still think about on

>> >> occasion to this day. He had one
grandfather who fought in the

>> Pacific

>> >> and both knew and disliked
"Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another

>> who

>> >> was part of the army group that liberated
Dachau. He had the camp

>> flag

>> >> in

>> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.

>> >>

>> >> Derek Stanley

>> >> Sent from my iPad

>> >>

>> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM,
wrote:

>> >>>

>> >>> Uxi--

>> >>>

>> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD
page I came across your COALINFONET

>> page

>> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I
recognize that name, did I know

>> him

>> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?

>> >>>

>> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral
Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my

>> >>> favorite one, I never would have
destroyed her.

>> >>>

>> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing
the two names. Gabriella Ramastan

>> and

>> >>> > Christian Overtak or something
very like that. The rationalization

>> is

>> >>> in

>> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.

>> >>> >

>> >>> > Derek Stanley

>> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...

>> >>> >

>> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53,
wrote:

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> Just for the record, there
was...an issue with the quotes in

>> Vampire

>> >>> >> Fleets.

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> Everything in there is true,
and happened as written, but Frank

>> put

>> >>> >> some

>> >>> >> of those in at the last
minute without my seeing them. I loved

>> them

>> >>> >> all,

>> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a
couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,

>> >>> Frank,

>> >>> >> that wasn't going to
happen so soon!"

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> But we would have found a way
to make it work. For example, the

>> >>> "first

>> >>> >> contact between RC and
Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could

>> >>> easily

>> >>> >> massage that, where that date
was the first contact of the

>> >>> >> way-way-advance

>> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies
where the disagreements began.

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> I had to do that sort of
thing all the time. Not only were there

>> >>> huge

>> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies
and contradictions in the CT and MT

>> >>> material

>> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or
bury, but stuff like the time Frank

>> >>> gave

>> >>> >> two

>> >>> >> at least two different names
to the Queen of Solee, which I had

>> to

>> >>> >> rationalize, I think in
COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are
real and true, just not indicative of

>> what

>> >>> I

>> >>> >> believed the timeline would
be, VF made them appear a little

>> sooner,

>> >>> >> but

>> >>> >> we would have found a way to
make it work.

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur
after Promise gets liberated? I recall a

>> >>> statement

>> >>> >> at

>> >>> >> > the end of vampire
fleets that the operation was going to be

>> run

>> >>> on

>> >>> a

>> >>> >> > shoestring. With that,
it's hard to see ships able to be spared

>> to

>> >>> >> > intedict those who go on
the run.

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> > Eamon

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >
--------------------------------------------

>> >>> >> > I think that's where
the Solee

>> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN
is going to be pretty formidable by

>> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when
they're pumping out Sandman destroyers

>> >>> >> > out of the automated
Guilded Lilly shipyard.

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> > - Sent from my
SM-N900T

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28
PM,

>> >>> >> > "Eamon
Watters" <>

>> >>> >> > wrote:

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> > True, though how
effective a hunt for those on the

>> >>> >> > run could be is up for
question. The EC value disparity

>> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario
I plotted with a very special

>> >>> >> > inflitration team taking
over the Evangelical Doomslayer

>> >>> >> > Virus which is the
origin of the corewards traffic on the

>> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> > Eamon

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >> >

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >>

>> >>> >

>> >>>

>> >>>

>> >>

>> >

>> >

>>

>>

>













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Could be. So Frank bit the bullet and killed the first clipper.

> I think that was Frank, it was in Vampire Fleets, IIRC.
>
> The "Mike Mikesh" was in reference to Mark/Mike Marchi thing below, I
> hadn't heard of Mike Marchi before, thought that the name misremembering
> might have gone through several iterations.
>
> Eamon
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 5/4/14, <> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Eric Bould, CSEA Victrix
> To:
> Date: Saturday, 5 April, 2014, 10:39
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Blew up Eos?
>
>
>
> > Mike Mikesh?
>
> >
>
> > Sent from my iPad
>
> >
>
> > On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below.
> Should have been "Mike."
>
> >> Something
>
> >> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal
> rhyme.
>
> >>
>
> >> > Derek--
>
> >> >
>
> >> > After I sent the message below I noticed that
> although the COALINFONET
>
> >> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on
> Uxi's page, it looks like the
>
> >> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting
> that wrong.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind
> of warm feeling, but I could
>
> >> not
>
> >> > add any factual details so I feel sad about
> knowing here's someone I
>
> >> had a
>
> >> > connection to but don't know what it was.
> Cue another monologue from
>
> >> me
>
> >> > about memory...
>
> >> >
>
> >> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD
> guys, and maybe wrote a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > of the stories on that page?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking
> the shores of Aubaine,
>
> >> and
>
> >> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC
> keeps moving.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin
> Cain's scenario with the
>
> >> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly
> impressive with the planning
>
> >> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked
> up your own big pot of
>
> >> > alphabet soup for the various information
> categories, Lawrence Cox's
>
> >> color
>
> >> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of
> you guys may have been
>
> >> some of
>
> >> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and
> took the universe with
>
> >> him.
>
> >> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that
> are still around, but a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did
> e-mail with Mark Marchi a few
>
> >> days
>
> >> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty
> consistently 1996, did all
>
> >> of
>
> >> > that creativity take place in the space of a
> year? As I've said
>
> >> before,
>
> >> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys
> hung around this long.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It
> could have been me, but I
>
> >> was
>
> >> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few
> to begin with. When I
>
> >> wrote
>
> >> > the PoT ship section it was based on published
> metrics for tonnage of
>
> >> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was
> pushing those to begin
>
> >> with,
>
> >> > even with established fudge factors, so we
> couldn't afford to blow up
>
> >> too
>
> >> > many of them, even though the spear
> carrier/redshirt ethic (of which
>
> >> I'm
>
> >> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so
> periodically just to keep
>
> >> > people on their toes.
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if
> you didn't talk to him
>
> >> while
>
> >> >> you
>
> >> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there
> after. He died about 15
>
> >> years
>
> >> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy
> who I still think about on
>
> >> >> occasion to this day. He had one
> grandfather who fought in the
>
> >> Pacific
>
> >> >> and both knew and disliked
> "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another
>
> >> who
>
> >> >> was part of the army group that liberated
> Dachau. He had the camp
>
> >> flag
>
> >> >> in
>
> >> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Derek Stanley
>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Uxi--
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD
> page I came across your COALINFONET
>
> >> page
>
> >> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I
> recognize that name, did I know
>
> >> him
>
> >> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral
> Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>
> >> >>> favorite one, I never would have
> destroyed her.
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing
> the two names. Gabriella Ramastan
>
> >> and
>
> >> >>> > Christian Overtak or something
> very like that. The rationalization
>
> >> is
>
> >> >>> in
>
> >> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> > Derek Stanley
>
> >> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Just for the record, there
> was...an issue with the quotes in
>
> >> Vampire
>
> >> >>> >> Fleets.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Everything in there is true,
> and happened as written, but Frank
>
> >> put
>
> >> >>> >> some
>
> >> >>> >> of those in at the last
> minute without my seeing them. I loved
>
> >> them
>
> >> >>> >> all,
>
> >> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a
> couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>
> >> >>> Frank,
>
> >> >>> >> that wasn't going to
> happen so soon!"
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> But we would have found a way
> to make it work. For example, the
>
> >> >>> "first
>
> >> >>> >> contact between RC and
> Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>
> >> >>> easily
>
> >> >>> >> massage that, where that date
> was the first contact of the
>
> >> >>> >> way-way-advance
>
> >> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies
> where the disagreements began.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> I had to do that sort of
> thing all the time. Not only were there
>
> >> >>> huge
>
> >> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies
> and contradictions in the CT and MT
>
> >> >>> material
>
> >> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or
> bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>
> >> >>> gave
>
> >> >>> >> two
>
> >> >>> >> at least two different names
> to the Queen of Solee, which I had
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> rationalize, I think in
> COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are
> real and true, just not indicative of
>
> >> what
>
> >> >>> I
>
> >> >>> >> believed the timeline would
> be, VF made them appear a little
>
> >> sooner,
>
> >> >>> >> but
>
> >> >>> >> we would have found a way to
> make it work.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur
> after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>
> >> >>> statement
>
> >> >>> >> at
>
> >> >>> >> > the end of vampire
> fleets that the operation was going to be
>
> >> run
>
> >> >>> on
>
> >> >>> a
>
> >> >>> >> > shoestring. With that,
> it's hard to see ships able to be spared
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> > intedict those who go on
> the run.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
> --------------------------------------------
>
> >> >>> >> > I think that's where
> the Solee
>
> >> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN
> is going to be pretty formidable by
>
> >> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when
> they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>
> >> >>> >> > out of the automated
> Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > - Sent from my
> SM-N900T
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28
> PM,
>
> >> >>> >> > "Eamon
> Watters" <>
>
> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > True, though how
> effective a hunt for those on the
>
> >> >>> >> > run could be is up for
> question. The EC value disparity
>
> >> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario
> I plotted with a very special
>
> >> >>> >> > inflitration team taking
> over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>
> >> >>> >> > Virus which is the
> origin of the corewards traffic on the
>
> >> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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