Could be. So Frank bit the bullet and killed the first clipper.
> I think that was Frank, it was in Vampire Fleets, IIRC.
>
> The "Mike Mikesh" was in reference to Mark/Mike Marchi thing below, I
> hadn't heard of Mike Marchi before, thought that the name misremembering
> might have gone through several iterations.
>
> Eamon
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 5/4/14, <> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Eric Bould, CSEA Victrix
> To:
> Date: Saturday, 5 April, 2014, 10:39
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Blew up Eos?
>
>
>
> > Mike Mikesh?
>
> >
>
> > Sent from my iPad
>
> >
>
> > On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below.
> Should have been "Mike."
>
> >> Something
>
> >> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal
> rhyme.
>
> >>
>
> >> > Derek--
>
> >> >
>
> >> > After I sent the message below I noticed that
> although the COALINFONET
>
> >> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on
> Uxi's page, it looks like the
>
> >> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting
> that wrong.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind
> of warm feeling, but I could
>
> >> not
>
> >> > add any factual details so I feel sad about
> knowing here's someone I
>
> >> had a
>
> >> > connection to but don't know what it was.
> Cue another monologue from
>
> >> me
>
> >> > about memory...
>
> >> >
>
> >> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD
> guys, and maybe wrote a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > of the stories on that page?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking
> the shores of Aubaine,
>
> >> and
>
> >> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC
> keeps moving.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin
> Cain's scenario with the
>
> >> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly
> impressive with the planning
>
> >> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked
> up your own big pot of
>
> >> > alphabet soup for the various information
> categories, Lawrence Cox's
>
> >> color
>
> >> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of
> you guys may have been
>
> >> some of
>
> >> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and
> took the universe with
>
> >> him.
>
> >> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that
> are still around, but a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did
> e-mail with Mark Marchi a few
>
> >> days
>
> >> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty
> consistently 1996, did all
>
> >> of
>
> >> > that creativity take place in the space of a
> year? As I've said
>
> >> before,
>
> >> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys
> hung around this long.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It
> could have been me, but I
>
> >> was
>
> >> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few
> to begin with. When I
>
> >> wrote
>
> >> > the PoT ship section it was based on published
> metrics for tonnage of
>
> >> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was
> pushing those to begin
>
> >> with,
>
> >> > even with established fudge factors, so we
> couldn't afford to blow up
>
> >> too
>
> >> > many of them, even though the spear
> carrier/redshirt ethic (of which
>
> >> I'm
>
> >> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so
> periodically just to keep
>
> >> > people on their toes.
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if
> you didn't talk to him
>
> >> while
>
> >> >> you
>
> >> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there
> after. He died about 15
>
> >> years
>
> >> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy
> who I still think about on
>
> >> >> occasion to this day. He had one
> grandfather who fought in the
>
> >> Pacific
>
> >> >> and both knew and disliked
> "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another
>
> >> who
>
> >> >> was part of the army group that liberated
> Dachau. He had the camp
>
> >> flag
>
> >> >> in
>
> >> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Derek Stanley
>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Uxi--
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD
> page I came across your COALINFONET
>
> >> page
>
> >> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I
> recognize that name, did I know
>
> >> him
>
> >> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral
> Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>
> >> >>> favorite one, I never would have
> destroyed her.
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing
> the two names. Gabriella Ramastan
>
> >> and
>
> >> >>> > Christian Overtak or something
> very like that. The rationalization
>
> >> is
>
> >> >>> in
>
> >> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> > Derek Stanley
>
> >> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Just for the record, there
> was...an issue with the quotes in
>
> >> Vampire
>
> >> >>> >> Fleets.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Everything in there is true,
> and happened as written, but Frank
>
> >> put
>
> >> >>> >> some
>
> >> >>> >> of those in at the last
> minute without my seeing them. I loved
>
> >> them
>
> >> >>> >> all,
>
> >> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a
> couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>
> >> >>> Frank,
>
> >> >>> >> that wasn't going to
> happen so soon!"
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> But we would have found a way
> to make it work. For example, the
>
> >> >>> "first
>
> >> >>> >> contact between RC and
> Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>
> >> >>> easily
>
> >> >>> >> massage that, where that date
> was the first contact of the
>
> >> >>> >> way-way-advance
>
> >> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies
> where the disagreements began.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> I had to do that sort of
> thing all the time. Not only were there
>
> >> >>> huge
>
> >> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies
> and contradictions in the CT and MT
>
> >> >>> material
>
> >> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or
> bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>
> >> >>> gave
>
> >> >>> >> two
>
> >> >>> >> at least two different names
> to the Queen of Solee, which I had
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> rationalize, I think in
> COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are
> real and true, just not indicative of
>
> >> what
>
> >> >>> I
>
> >> >>> >> believed the timeline would
> be, VF made them appear a little
>
> >> sooner,
>
> >> >>> >> but
>
> >> >>> >> we would have found a way to
> make it work.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur
> after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>
> >> >>> statement
>
> >> >>> >> at
>
> >> >>> >> > the end of vampire
> fleets that the operation was going to be
>
> >> run
>
> >> >>> on
>
> >> >>> a
>
> >> >>> >> > shoestring. With that,
> it's hard to see ships able to be spared
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> > intedict those who go on
> the run.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
> --------------------------------------------
>
> >> >>> >> > I think that's where
> the Solee
>
> >> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN
> is going to be pretty formidable by
>
> >> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when
> they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>
> >> >>> >> > out of the automated
> Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > - Sent from my
> SM-N900T
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28
> PM,
>
> >> >>> >> > "Eamon
> Watters" <>
>
> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > True, though how
> effective a hunt for those on the
>
> >> >>> >> > run could be is up for
> question. The EC value disparity
>
> >> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario
> I plotted with a very special
>
> >> >>> >> > inflitration team taking
> over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>
> >> >>> >> > Virus which is the
> origin of the corewards traffic on the
>
> >> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> I think that was Frank, it was in Vampire Fleets, IIRC.
>
> The "Mike Mikesh" was in reference to Mark/Mike Marchi thing below, I
> hadn't heard of Mike Marchi before, thought that the name misremembering
> might have gone through several iterations.
>
> Eamon
> --------------------------------------------
> On Sat, 5/4/14, <> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Eric Bould, CSEA Victrix
> To:
> Date: Saturday, 5 April, 2014, 10:39
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Blew up Eos?
>
>
>
> > Mike Mikesh?
>
> >
>
> > Sent from my iPad
>
> >
>
> > On 5 Apr 2014, at 01:05, wrote:
>
> >
>
> >> Correction: I said "Mark Marchi" below.
> Should have been "Mike."
>
> >> Something
>
> >> in my brain fell for a non-existent internal
> rhyme.
>
> >>
>
> >> > Derek--
>
> >> >
>
> >> > After I sent the message below I noticed that
> although the COALINFONET
>
> >> > page and Eric Bould introduction was on
> Uxi's page, it looks like the
>
> >> > intro was signed by you, so sorry for getting
> that wrong.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > As soon as I saw Eric's name I had a kind
> of warm feeling, but I could
>
> >> not
>
> >> > add any factual details so I feel sad about
> knowing here's someone I
>
> >> had a
>
> >> > connection to but don't know what it was.
> Cue another monologue from
>
> >> me
>
> >> > about memory...
>
> >> >
>
> >> > So I guess Eric was one of the early big BARD
> guys, and maybe wrote a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > of the stories on that page?
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I like the bits you wrote about Eric walking
> the shores of Aubaine,
>
> >> and
>
> >> > how TNE lives so long as the story of the RC
> keeps moving.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > You BARD guys did a really good job. Franklin
> Cain's scenario with the
>
> >> > BL-detailed scenario was particularly
> impressive with the planning
>
> >> > vectors. I also like the way you guys cooked
> up your own big pot of
>
> >> > alphabet soup for the various information
> categories, Lawrence Cox's
>
> >> color
>
> >> > RC logo, etc. I have this fear that some of
> you guys may have been
>
> >> some of
>
> >> > the people who felt Dave had abandoned you and
> took the universe with
>
> >> him.
>
> >> > Sorry about that, it wasn't up to me.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > I notice some names in the BARD credits that
> are still around, but a
>
> >> lot
>
> >> > that I guess aren't anymore. But I did
> e-mail with Mark Marchi a few
>
> >> days
>
> >> > ago. The copyright dates on BARD are pretty
> consistently 1996, did all
>
> >> of
>
> >> > that creativity take place in the space of a
> year? As I've said
>
> >> before,
>
> >> > I'm both glad and surprised that you guys
> hung around this long.
>
> >> >
>
> >> > Who blew up Eos? Was that me or after me? It
> could have been me, but I
>
> >> was
>
> >> > hesitant to kill a clipper as they were so few
> to begin with. When I
>
> >> wrote
>
> >> > the PoT ship section it was based on published
> metrics for tonnage of
>
> >> > ships that could be produced, and the RC was
> pushing those to begin
>
> >> with,
>
> >> > even with established fudge factors, so we
> couldn't afford to blow up
>
> >> too
>
> >> > many of them, even though the spear
> carrier/redshirt ethic (of which
>
> >> I'm
>
> >> > actually an anti-fan) required us to do so
> periodically just to keep
>
> >> > people on their toes.
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >> >> Eric was my GM when I was playing TNE, if
> you didn't talk to him
>
> >> while
>
> >> >> you
>
> >> >> were at GDW it would have been soon there
> after. He died about 15
>
> >> years
>
> >> >> back, a month before his 30th birthday.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> He was an interesting and adventurous guy
> who I still think about on
>
> >> >> occasion to this day. He had one
> grandfather who fought in the
>
> >> Pacific
>
> >> >> and both knew and disliked
> "Pappy" Boeington intensely, and another
>
> >> who
>
> >> >> was part of the army group that liberated
> Dachau. He had the camp
>
> >> flag
>
> >> >> in
>
> >> >> a box in his attic, very creepy.
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >> Derek Stanley
>
> >> >> Sent from my iPad
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >>> On Apr 4, 2014, at 1:05 AM,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Uxi--
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> While looking for Derek's BARD
> page I came across your COALINFONET
>
> >> page
>
> >> >>> which is dedicated to Eric Bould. I
> recognize that name, did I know
>
> >> him
>
> >> >>> while I was at GDW or thereafter?
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> Also, I saw that you destroyed Coral
> Sea Victrix. DUDE! She was my
>
> >> >>> favorite one, I never would have
> destroyed her.
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>> > I wrote the thing rationalizing
> the two names. Gabriella Ramastan
>
> >> and
>
> >> >>> > Christian Overtak or something
> very like that. The rationalization
>
> >> is
>
> >> >>> in
>
> >> >>> > the BARD pages somewhere.
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> > Derek Stanley
>
> >> >>> > Sent from my iPhone...
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>> >> On Apr 3, 2014, at 21:53,
> wrote:
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Just for the record, there
> was...an issue with the quotes in
>
> >> Vampire
>
> >> >>> >> Fleets.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> Everything in there is true,
> and happened as written, but Frank
>
> >> put
>
> >> >>> >> some
>
> >> >>> >> of those in at the last
> minute without my seeing them. I loved
>
> >> them
>
> >> >>> >> all,
>
> >> >>> >> but when I saw the dates on a
> couple of them I said, "Holy Crap,
>
> >> >>> Frank,
>
> >> >>> >> that wasn't going to
> happen so soon!"
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> But we would have found a way
> to make it work. For example, the
>
> >> >>> "first
>
> >> >>> >> contact between RC and
> Regency" was like 1205 or 6, but we could
>
> >> >>> easily
>
> >> >>> >> massage that, where that date
> was the first contact of the
>
> >> >>> >> way-way-advance
>
> >> >>> >> scouts, not the main bodies
> where the disagreements began.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> I had to do that sort of
> thing all the time. Not only were there
>
> >> >>> huge
>
> >> >>> >> numbers of inconsistencies
> and contradictions in the CT and MT
>
> >> >>> material
>
> >> >>> >> that I had to rationalize or
> bury, but stuff like the time Frank
>
> >> >>> gave
>
> >> >>> >> two
>
> >> >>> >> at least two different names
> to the Queen of Solee, which I had
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> rationalize, I think in
> COALINFONET in Challenge 76 at least.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> So yes, the VF quotes are
> real and true, just not indicative of
>
> >> what
>
> >> >>> I
>
> >> >>> >> believed the timeline would
> be, VF made them appear a little
>
> >> sooner,
>
> >> >>> >> but
>
> >> >>> >> we would have found a way to
> make it work.
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >> > Doesn't that occur
> after Promise gets liberated? I recall a
>
> >> >>> statement
>
> >> >>> >> at
>
> >> >>> >> > the end of vampire
> fleets that the operation was going to be
>
> >> run
>
> >> >>> on
>
> >> >>> a
>
> >> >>> >> > shoestring. With that,
> it's hard to see ships able to be spared
>
> >> to
>
> >> >>> >> > intedict those who go on
> the run.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
> --------------------------------------------
>
> >> >>> >> > I think that's where
> the Solee
>
> >> >>> >> > ships come in. The RCN
> is going to be pretty formidable by
>
> >> >>> >> > 1205 - 1206 when
> they're pumping out Sandman destroyers
>
> >> >>> >> > out of the automated
> Guilded Lilly shipyard.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > - Sent from my
> SM-N900T
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > On Apr 3, 2014 8:28
> PM,
>
> >> >>> >> > "Eamon
> Watters" <>
>
> >> >>> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > True, though how
> effective a hunt for those on the
>
> >> >>> >> > run could be is up for
> question. The EC value disparity
>
> >> >>> >> > reminds me of a scenario
> I plotted with a very special
>
> >> >>> >> > inflitration team taking
> over the Evangelical Doomslayer
>
> >> >>> >> > Virus which is the
> origin of the corewards traffic on the
>
> >> >>> >> > Vampire Highway.
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> > Eamon
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >> >
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >>
>
> >> >>> >
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>>
>
> >> >>
>
> >> >
>
> >> >
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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