Re: Norris (was RE: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Armor XXI--> Planetary Envir

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sounds awesome!
Were you thinking to have their Viral commanders making use of
meta identity?
Unique Viral strains in the ruins of the Two Thousand Worlds
come to mind, too, but probably a separate enchilada, since these
robo-centaurs would be part of the pre collapse invasion force

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Also, the robo-K'kree would not only be deployed as pure
robo-K'kree units
(I had a name for these things based on the shape of their armor,
something like beetles or cockroaches), but also as ersatz AFVs
supporting
infantry of other Lucan Vampire subject races.

> More like Borg crossed with UAVs. Real K'kree, but
manufactured/modified
> at an early age to add bio-mechanical integral communications,
combat drug
> injectors, and command/control/communications gear, including
operant and
> classical conditioning modules to force them to do things
against their
> nature, like cram into cramped troop transports for long
periods. The
> armor that you see on them (in the TNE t-shirts, maybe other
stuff since
> then) is not permanent, but put on before battle, but there are
permanent,
> surgically implanted attachment points for the armor on their
hips and
> shoulder girdles. So while they are "real" K'kree beneath the
behavior
> control, they can be forced to do lots of things like charge
and fight to
> the last man beyond what they would normally do. But if you
were able to
> jam the tactical net you could degrade the control circuits and
allow them
> to behave more naturally. They don't have an actual virus
personality
> resident in each one, but are commanded/controlled remotely by
vampire
> control systems.
>
> Weapons would be basically anything they can carry, but given
their mass,
> they would lean toward heavy autocannon, grenade launchers,
plasma and
> fusion weapons. Each K'kree would typically have one major
weapon on each
> side, attached to the shoulder girdle on either side, and could
add
> weapons in their hands. These weapons would be like the Aliens
"smart
> gun," aimed by HUDs inside of the faired-in helmet. The weapons
would not
> be like Borg where they replace the hands, because hands are
too useful to
> be used for flexible tasks.
>
> There would also be specialized K'kree "biotanks," like
Engineer vehicles,
> self-propelled artillery, missile launchers, and some which
might carry a
> tactical operations center which would house an actual
virus/vampire
> personality. In that case maybe there is more direct
virus/vampire control
> over the brain and central nervous system, but not necessarily.
>
> They are used as Lucan's Vampire Army shock troops because they
already
> have a native, intelligent ability to fight well, are large,
with a great
> load-carrying capability for armor and weapons, but that can be
"enhanced"
> by the ability to control them more directly in tactical
situations. Their
> masters would also attempt to manipulate their concious minds
by showing
> them whatever kind of motivating propaganda they can come up
with to make
> them hate their enemies, trying to blame them for the K'kree's
slavery.
> "If you kill them, you can finally be free."
>
> So these K'kree are tragic figures, all the more so, since the
free K'kree
> outside the curtain will hate them for what they have become
and wish to
> exterminate them for this travesty against K'kree values.
Within the
> enslaved K'kree, there would be an oral tradition, coming from
captured
> free K'kree impressed into the Robo-K'kree forces, to pass on
and keep
> alive true K'kree culture among the robo-K'kree, so there would
be a kind
> of K'kree underground within the ranks, or rumors of it.
>
> The Ithklur, although renowned as K'kree fighters, will rapidly
develop
> compassion for them, as the robo-K'kree are the perfect example
of a
> formerly free people turned into twisted, tortured slaves. The
Ithklur
> will not get a lot of satisfaction out of battling their old
nemesis this
> way. The Ithklur enjoy fighting opponents who are strong
enemies, and who
> hate the Ithklur as much as the Ithklur hate them, but that's
not what's
> going on here. These K'kree are fighting because they are
forced, and to
> Ithklur that invokes more compassion than righteous warrior
spirit. This
> compassion will manifest itself in two predominant ways:
killing the poor,
> tortured K'kree as swiftly as possible, putting them out of
their misery,
> and after battle, stripping them of all their gear so that they
can at
> least be "free" in death. (Think of the pasty, bruised
complexion of
> Picard after being de-borged, or Darth Vader at the end of
Return of the
> Jedi, with their fur all worn off in patches beneath the
armor.) There
> would be, time permitting, a story where a group of Ithklur,
moved by this
> compassion, attempt to liberate a unit of K'kree and free them
from their
> vampire control. This would be early in the robo-K'kree-Ithklur
contact,
> so these pen-raised K'kree won't even know who the Ithklur are
and they're
> supposed to hate them, so they could make some common cause and
fight as a
> combined unit, freeing more robo-K'kree and becoming a
force-multiplier
> for the RC ground troops, as they can tap into the robo-K'kree
tactical
> net. So one of the ironies of the Black Curtain fighting would
be Ithklur
> and de-borged K'kree as comrades in arms, which could
eventually feed into
> an entree for improved Ithklur-K'kree relations after the war,
or at least
> result in a group of K'kree survivors that are not accepted by
the free
> K'kree, but are allies of the Ithklur. Unfortunately, the
K'kree
> underground within the robo-K'kree would remember the Ithklur
as
> traditional enemies, so there would be conflict here between
K'kree who
> want to free their own people and K'kree being freed by
outsiders.
>
>> So tell us about the K'kree when they boil out from behind the
Black
>> Curtain. How did you guys envisage them? Are they still
K'kree? Are
>> they
>> robots? Are they Borg? How many of them are there? What
weapons do
>> they
>> have?
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>>> No worries. I just threw that, "at GDW" bit in there because
I have
>>> been
>>> asked that question several times before. I'm here to share
and bore
>>> people, so I have to keep up my sharing and boring people.
>>>
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