Re: Norris (was RE: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Armor XXI--> Planetary Envir

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Also, the robo-K'kree would not only be deployed as pure robo-K'kree units
(I had a name for these things based on the shape of their armor,
something like beetles or cockroaches), but also as ersatz AFVs supporting
infantry of other Lucan Vampire subject races.

> More like Borg crossed with UAVs. Real K'kree, but manufactured/modified
> at an early age to add bio-mechanical integral communications, combat drug
> injectors, and command/control/communications gear, including operant and
> classical conditioning modules to force them to do things against their
> nature, like cram into cramped troop transports for long periods. The
> armor that you see on them (in the TNE t-shirts, maybe other stuff since
> then) is not permanent, but put on before battle, but there are permanent,
> surgically implanted attachment points for the armor on their hips and
> shoulder girdles. So while they are "real" K'kree beneath the behavior
> control, they can be forced to do lots of things like charge and fight to
> the last man beyond what they would normally do. But if you were able to
> jam the tactical net you could degrade the control circuits and allow them
> to behave more naturally. They don't have an actual virus personality
> resident in each one, but are commanded/controlled remotely by vampire
> control systems.
>
> Weapons would be basically anything they can carry, but given their mass,
> they would lean toward heavy autocannon, grenade launchers, plasma and
> fusion weapons. Each K'kree would typically have one major weapon on each
> side, attached to the shoulder girdle on either side, and could add
> weapons in their hands. These weapons would be like the Aliens "smart
> gun," aimed by HUDs inside of the faired-in helmet. The weapons would not
> be like Borg where they replace the hands, because hands are too useful to
> be used for flexible tasks.
>
> There would also be specialized K'kree "biotanks," like Engineer vehicles,
> self-propelled artillery, missile launchers, and some which might carry a
> tactical operations center which would house an actual virus/vampire
> personality. In that case maybe there is more direct virus/vampire control
> over the brain and central nervous system, but not necessarily.
>
> They are used as Lucan's Vampire Army shock troops because they already
> have a native, intelligent ability to fight well, are large, with a great
> load-carrying capability for armor and weapons, but that can be "enhanced"
> by the ability to control them more directly in tactical situations. Their
> masters would also attempt to manipulate their concious minds by showing
> them whatever kind of motivating propaganda they can come up with to make
> them hate their enemies, trying to blame them for the K'kree's slavery.
> "If you kill them, you can finally be free."
>
> So these K'kree are tragic figures, all the more so, since the free K'kree
> outside the curtain will hate them for what they have become and wish to
> exterminate them for this travesty against K'kree values. Within the
> enslaved K'kree, there would be an oral tradition, coming from captured
> free K'kree impressed into the Robo-K'kree forces, to pass on and keep
> alive true K'kree culture among the robo-K'kree, so there would be a kind
> of K'kree underground within the ranks, or rumors of it.
>
> The Ithklur, although renowned as K'kree fighters, will rapidly develop
> compassion for them, as the robo-K'kree are the perfect example of a
> formerly free people turned into twisted, tortured slaves. The Ithklur
> will not get a lot of satisfaction out of battling their old nemesis this
> way. The Ithklur enjoy fighting opponents who are strong enemies, and who
> hate the Ithklur as much as the Ithklur hate them, but that's not what's
> going on here. These K'kree are fighting because they are forced, and to
> Ithklur that invokes more compassion than righteous warrior spirit. This
> compassion will manifest itself in two predominant ways: killing the poor,
> tortured K'kree as swiftly as possible, putting them out of their misery,
> and after battle, stripping them of all their gear so that they can at
> least be "free" in death. (Think of the pasty, bruised complexion of
> Picard after being de-borged, or Darth Vader at the end of Return of the
> Jedi, with their fur all worn off in patches beneath the armor.) There
> would be, time permitting, a story where a group of Ithklur, moved by this
> compassion, attempt to liberate a unit of K'kree and free them from their
> vampire control. This would be early in the robo-K'kree-Ithklur contact,
> so these pen-raised K'kree won't even know who the Ithklur are and they're
> supposed to hate them, so they could make some common cause and fight as a
> combined unit, freeing more robo-K'kree and becoming a force-multiplier
> for the RC ground troops, as they can tap into the robo-K'kree tactical
> net. So one of the ironies of the Black Curtain fighting would be Ithklur
> and de-borged K'kree as comrades in arms, which could eventually feed into
> an entree for improved Ithklur-K'kree relations after the war, or at least
> result in a group of K'kree survivors that are not accepted by the free
> K'kree, but are allies of the Ithklur. Unfortunately, the K'kree
> underground within the robo-K'kree would remember the Ithklur as
> traditional enemies, so there would be conflict here between K'kree who
> want to free their own people and K'kree being freed by outsiders.
>
>> So tell us about the K'kree when they boil out from behind the Black
>> Curtain. How did you guys envisage them? Are they still K'kree? Are
>> they
>> robots? Are they Borg? How many of them are there? What weapons do
>> they
>> have?
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>> --- In , dcndcn13@... wrote:
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>>> No worries. I just threw that, "at GDW" bit in there because I have
>>> been
>>> asked that question several times before. I'm here to share and bore
>>> people, so I have to keep up my sharing and boring people.
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