Well, if there's really nothing in GURPS (I skipped it), Dave's right:
There's no there there.
AFAICT, TravellerMap and CORE use the same dotmap, which looks exactly
like the one in DGP's S&A. And while it's considered forbidden canon
(ooo scary), the dotmaps are pretty much accepted by most GMs as legit.
I don't recall if those dotmaps were DGP's creation or taken from GDW in
some unreleased work (Aldebaran wasn't included in /Atlas of the
Imperium/). Maybe you know that answer. Maybe Dave or Don do.
On a tangential note, I wonder what other dotmaps would've been created
had DGP published the other alien volumes it claimed to have on its slate.
I recall reading an article a few years ago about how Lucasarts had a
"Canon Coordinator" or some such title. This guy's job (and he was paid
to do it) was to maintain the integrity of the Star Wars timeline and
make sure that all the licensed books, graphic novels & comics, web
shorts, and TV shows didn't conflict with either each other or the
official storyline dictated by the films. Traveller never had that, so
it's no surprise that there's a conflict between CoE and 1248 even
though both were licensed.
I agree with your assertion that there should be a PE somewhere in the
sector. The astrography (assuming you use the DGP dotmap) is sparse. J-1
ships would have an impossible time getting around. I never got that it
wasn't settled more, especially since J-2 has been around for thousands
of years. I get that the Imperium had all of this ready made
infrastructure from the 1st Imp so they did all the work of colonizing
and building civilization, but there's such a strong desire among
Terrans (a significant portion anyway) to explore new worlds, build
things themselves, and establish their very own homestead (for a whole
host of reasons), that in seems strange to me that 5 subsectors rimward
from Terra are whole subsectors of empty worlds.
Assuming you ignore MJD's 1248 work for that portion of space, I think
it might be reasonable to think that refugees fleeing Imperial Civil War
#2 (or Rebellion), the tyranny of Terra, and Virus would head rimward
and build PEs. So what if life is tough? At least no one is shooting at
you or trying to assimilate your toaster. And while Virus does go as far
rimward as Aldebaran, we know that the focus of viral activity (or would
that be "locus" in this case) is Core and Cymbelline and the route that
connects them. The world density in Aldebaran is thin, especially when
compared to the juciness of the Vilani Main and the Imperiun as a whole,
so Virus might get bored or find that the technological meat on the
bones of these worlds isn't worth gnawing on.
Just my thoughts anyway.
Do you plan on having this stuff hosted on a website somewhere?
\_/
DED
TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
Harold Hale wrote:
>>DGP's dot map, and bits and pieces out of Solomani & Aslan.
Actually, the Winston Democracy and Malorn Union first made their
appearance in S&A. GT referenced the Malorn Union in their publication
GURPS Traveller: Alien Races 4 in discussing another alien race.
Kinda messy....and Traveller story canon is very much a layer cake made
of a variety sources. Sources that can find themselves out of print but
not forgotten.
FYI: If you want really messy, technically Gabreelism, which makes
reference to a religion mentioned in S&A (The Searchers for the One
Faith), is canon in T4 by virtue of the fact of appearing in the
licensed BITS publication "101 Religions" and predates anything done
with the 1248 setting, in addition to appearing in Traveller Chronicle
(licensing originally murky), now part of the collection of canon at FFE
(so I've heard).
The bottomline I think is that we can spend ours talking about the
writing or we can...you know...write. ;-)
Anyway, expect Aldebaran Sector, the CoE version with additional c.1105
data, sometime in the coming months. I'll let you people parse out what
I drew from where and what I made up as I went. I promise it won't be
boring.<<
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There's no there there.
AFAICT, TravellerMap and CORE use the same dotmap, which looks exactly
like the one in DGP's S&A. And while it's considered forbidden canon
(ooo scary), the dotmaps are pretty much accepted by most GMs as legit.
I don't recall if those dotmaps were DGP's creation or taken from GDW in
some unreleased work (Aldebaran wasn't included in /Atlas of the
Imperium/). Maybe you know that answer. Maybe Dave or Don do.
On a tangential note, I wonder what other dotmaps would've been created
had DGP published the other alien volumes it claimed to have on its slate.
I recall reading an article a few years ago about how Lucasarts had a
"Canon Coordinator" or some such title. This guy's job (and he was paid
to do it) was to maintain the integrity of the Star Wars timeline and
make sure that all the licensed books, graphic novels & comics, web
shorts, and TV shows didn't conflict with either each other or the
official storyline dictated by the films. Traveller never had that, so
it's no surprise that there's a conflict between CoE and 1248 even
though both were licensed.
I agree with your assertion that there should be a PE somewhere in the
sector. The astrography (assuming you use the DGP dotmap) is sparse. J-1
ships would have an impossible time getting around. I never got that it
wasn't settled more, especially since J-2 has been around for thousands
of years. I get that the Imperium had all of this ready made
infrastructure from the 1st Imp so they did all the work of colonizing
and building civilization, but there's such a strong desire among
Terrans (a significant portion anyway) to explore new worlds, build
things themselves, and establish their very own homestead (for a whole
host of reasons), that in seems strange to me that 5 subsectors rimward
from Terra are whole subsectors of empty worlds.
Assuming you ignore MJD's 1248 work for that portion of space, I think
it might be reasonable to think that refugees fleeing Imperial Civil War
#2 (or Rebellion), the tyranny of Terra, and Virus would head rimward
and build PEs. So what if life is tough? At least no one is shooting at
you or trying to assimilate your toaster. And while Virus does go as far
rimward as Aldebaran, we know that the focus of viral activity (or would
that be "locus" in this case) is Core and Cymbelline and the route that
connects them. The world density in Aldebaran is thin, especially when
compared to the juciness of the Vilani Main and the Imperiun as a whole,
so Virus might get bored or find that the technological meat on the
bones of these worlds isn't worth gnawing on.
Just my thoughts anyway.
Do you plan on having this stuff hosted on a website somewhere?
\_/
DED
TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
Harold Hale wrote:
>>DGP's dot map, and bits and pieces out of Solomani & Aslan.
Actually, the Winston Democracy and Malorn Union first made their
appearance in S&A. GT referenced the Malorn Union in their publication
GURPS Traveller: Alien Races 4 in discussing another alien race.
Kinda messy....and Traveller story canon is very much a layer cake made
of a variety sources. Sources that can find themselves out of print but
not forgotten.
FYI: If you want really messy, technically Gabreelism, which makes
reference to a religion mentioned in S&A (The Searchers for the One
Faith), is canon in T4 by virtue of the fact of appearing in the
licensed BITS publication "101 Religions" and predates anything done
with the 1248 setting, in addition to appearing in Traveller Chronicle
(licensing originally murky), now part of the collection of canon at FFE
(so I've heard).
The bottomline I think is that we can spend ours talking about the
writing or we can...you know...write. ;-)
Anyway, expect Aldebaran Sector, the CoE version with additional c.1105
data, sometime in the coming months. I'll let you people parse out what
I drew from where and what I made up as I went. I promise it won't be
boring.<<
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