I'm another who is glad to have steered away from T5, though I kept an open mind initially. However, seeing the mad list of digits that now accompany UWPs soured me slightly, however it's the "Second Survey", a 'clean-up' of old UWPs which really put it in the must-avoid pile for me.
This "Second Survey", strangely enough, does not address the low-pop "rockball worlds" which populate much of Delphi and other sectors. Nor does it address the ridiculous names that have been allowed to creep into 'canon' - some subsectors read like a telephone directory. Nope. It does drop most tech-16 worlds from the setting - because new things are possible at tech-16 in T5 (Why not set those to tech-17? Too sensible, I guess). However, that's not even the worst - lots of worlds in published settings get their tech levels massively reduced. Sufren drops to TL-12, pre-virus, losing three tech levels; Accra loses 4 tech levels to hit TL-10, as does Nike Nimbus, and Vezina. Spires, strangely enough, gains three tech levels - hitting TL-5. These are just a handful. What a wonderful fix! A lot of TNE/HT settings virtually get wiped out of Traveller Canon.
As to why Marc allows stuff out like T5, I guess we have to contend with the fact that our vision of what things can be can often blind us to faults in that thing*.
Eamon
* YMMV, I'm sure a lot of people are happy with T5.
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/5/14, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Subject: [Traveller_TNE] T5 Status
To:
Date: Saturday, 10 May, 2014, 0:16
I'm glad I stayed away from the whole T5
thing. After T4 there was no reason to beleive that T5
would be any better edited. Also it seemed way to big and
ambitious.
I'm curious
as to why Marc would let something out that was so messy.
Anyone know?
Matt
==========================
---In ,
<evil_dr_ganymede@...> wrote :
I
don't think T5 can really be said to have 'made its
debut' yet. The version that was released as a result of
the kickstarter was such a mess and contained so many errors
and was so poorly received that the diehards are pretty much
going over it all again in an attempt to get something
playable out of it.
The sad
thing is that it's not even relevant. If people want to
get into Traveller nowadays then they'll get Mongoose or
Classic Traveller.
I'm glad I stayed away from the whole T5
thing. After T4 there was no reason to beleive that T5
would be any better edited. Also it seemed way to big and
ambitious.
I'm curious
as to why Marc would let something out that was so messy.
Anyone know?
Matt
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As to why Marc allows stuff out like T5, I guess we have to contend with the fact that our vision of what things can be can often blind us to faults in that thing*.
Eamon
* YMMV, I'm sure a lot of people are happy with T5.
--------------------------------------------
On Sat, 10/5/14, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Subject: [Traveller_TNE] T5 Status
To:
Date: Saturday, 10 May, 2014, 0:16
I'm glad I stayed away from the whole T5
thing. After T4 there was no reason to beleive that T5
would be any better edited. Also it seemed way to big and
ambitious.
I'm curious
as to why Marc would let something out that was so messy.
Anyone know?
Matt
==========================
---In ,
<evil_dr_ganymede@...> wrote :
I
don't think T5 can really be said to have 'made its
debut' yet. The version that was released as a result of
the kickstarter was such a mess and contained so many errors
and was so poorly received that the diehards are pretty much
going over it all again in an attempt to get something
playable out of it.
The sad
thing is that it's not even relevant. If people want to
get into Traveller nowadays then they'll get Mongoose or
Classic Traveller.
I'm glad I stayed away from the whole T5
thing. After T4 there was no reason to beleive that T5
would be any better edited. Also it seemed way to big and
ambitious.
I'm curious
as to why Marc would let something out that was so messy.
Anyone know?
Matt
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