My wife bought one of the new Samsung Galaxy 3's. had it for 1 day and
returned it for an iPad. I'd like to try a Surface but at the price I just
can't bring myself to get one as a trial. That combined with the cash I've
"invested" in iTunes makes it difficult to change gears now. It's the ghost
of Steve Job's still screwing with me.
As for Billy and Myriam, real life happens and it's always more important
than some silly game... Unless your RL is the silly game in which case suck
it up buttercup. It's usually the GM's fault when a PBEM tanks, they get
busy and can't keep things moving along or all the players just seem to
bugger off at once, in which case it's not the GM's fault.
From: []
On Behalf Of
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:42 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
"In an e-mail where..."
Yeah, iPads are great, but there are always going to be one-off middle-man
devices. MS has the right idea with Surface, but they don't seem to be
catching on. Apple still leading in style over substance.
Yeah, I liked the Billy Vowells/Myriam thing too. Too bad I lost the
thread back then.
> Perhaps, but if the mucus in your sinuses is the consistency of Mono brand
> window caulk the CPAP does precisely 2 things, jack and shit.
>
>
>
> Heterochromia is the condition of having 2 distinctly different colors, it
> can apply to the eyes Heterochromia Iridis but can also apply to the skin
> or
> hair. Of course that's neither here nor there.
>
>
>
> I had the desire at one time to try monkeying with the logs and turn them
> into a kind of novel, or even make them look like a screen play. It would
> actually work fairly easily with the IRC logs I think. But I got side
> tracked, squirrel!, and then became the father of the ADHD poster child
> and
> so that kind of fell by the way side. I've started writing a bit
> recently,
> but I've yet to find something that'll allow me to easily port documents
> back and forth between the iPad and the PC.
>
>
>
> I rather liked the Billy Vowells / Myriam dynamic. The story's progressed
> since then, Billy and Myriam are still there, and the survival horror
> dynamic is back. No sleeping psinonics this time though.
>
>
>
> For some reason talking about books and scripts and survival horror
> suddenly
> brought this to mind, makes me laugh every time but it kind of sums up the
> pictures that storm through my head.
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro
>
>
>
>
>
> From: []
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:42 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry you're not feeling well. One of the only side-benefits of sleep
> apnea is that the CPAP machine blows that out when it's time to go to
> sleep.
>
> Heterochromic is a word with which I am not familiar. I might try
> "Huskyish" or "David Bowieish" until someone corrected me.
>
> Re: the log, that sounds likely. It was pretty episodic, and for the time
> I was in Distant Suns, I was reminded of it in that you used a very
> detailed, narrative style that could easily be moved over into a story of
> that kind.
>
>> As I lay here trying to sleep, I've had a cold for 2 weeks and my head
>> is
>> one giant blob of ick, it occures to me that the clones from my game
>> might
>> have been heterochromic? I think thats the word, one blue one green eye.
>>
>> It would be in the game logs I'll look it up later. It was an IRC based
>> game with players from all over the world. Crashed and burned after
>> about
>> 2 years, it was hard to get everyone on line at the same time.
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:18, DEREK STANLEY <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that I recall, I borrowed the idea a while later in my own campaign
>>> and had the players run into a free trader starship with a captain and
>>> a
>>> crew of 4 clones. I don't remember ever writing about it beyond that.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 0:51, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you have clones a lot in your TNE games? Not exactly standard TNE
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you had some Traveller fiction on line someplace. Starship
>>>> crews, female main characters, stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> Lots of blue and green.
>>>>
>>>> Am I thinking of someone else?
>>>>
>>>> > Clones.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm the type of player who like / needs to write character
>>>> backgrounds. I
>>>> > need to know where my character's coming from and where they're
>>>> going.
>>>> > Voodoo had a fairly well laid out background including a 1 year
>>>> blank
>>>> > spot.
>>>> >
>>>> > When I was much younger I aspired to write, despite the fact that I
>>>> lack
>>>> > even the most basic grasp of spelling and punctuation, and that kind
>>>> of
>>>> > carried over into character building. When I built a character it
>>>> aways
>>>> > had 3 or 4 largish plot hooks for the GM so he didn't have to do all
>>>> the
>>>> > heavy lifting.
>>>> >
>>>> > Basically Voodoo wandered off into the snow one winters eve and
>>>> returned a
>>>> > year later with no memory of the events that had transpired and a
>>>> child.
>>>> > I'm not entirely sure why or what inspired him to fill that void
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> > clone plot line, he's been dead for 15 years so I can't ask him, at
>>>> any
>>>> > rate every where we went in the wilds we'd invariably run into one
>>>> of
>>>> > Voodoo's clones. I think we met 6 all told, by the end I wasn't even
>>>> sure
>>>> > if I was just another clone or the original.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ya the Spiri bit amounts to 2 or 3 sentances. I just took it and ran
>>>> with
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Derek Stanley
>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:20 PM, wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You're definitely one of the people that TNE was a really good fit
>>>> for.
>>>> >> Whatever that says about you, me, Frank, and what Frank I expected
>>>> >> other
>>>> >> people to be like, who knows.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Re: being eaten by a thresher, I think he deliberately walked into
>>>> it,
>>>> >> knowing that he had caused it, and thinking that was a reasonably
>>>> >> fitting
>>>> >> end. I think it was for him a bit of a grace note at the end,
>>>> finally
>>>> >> owning up to it all, rather than making people hunt him down and
>>>> kill
>>>> >> him
>>>> >> or put him on trial. Icky to be sure, but dead is dead.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, I agree with you about the pocket empires. If you let the
>>>> >> Rebellion
>>>> >> sputter down to heat death, they're still enemy empires and don't
>>>> get
>>>> >> along, and have not learned anything. They'll just start fighting
>>>> again
>>>> >> so
>>>> >> there is nothing to be gained going that way.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I can't remember much about the Spiri. I think the guys with the
>>>> facial
>>>> >> tattoos were Lutahlens, right? I assume you have access to PoT,
>>>> right?
>>>> >> All
>>>> >> there is is in there.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Clones?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > This was always something that made me laugh about the old guard,
>>>> so
>>>> >> > you're
>>>> >> > willing to let go Jump Drives that take you from a to b in a week
>>>> >> > regardless
>>>> >> > of the real distance travelled, Anti-Gravity, genetically
>>>> engineered
>>>> >> > Wolves,
>>>> >> > Pocket Dimensions, psionics and the human race being seeded all
>>>> over
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > galaxy but a silicon based life form that can live inside of
>>>> computers
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> > completely off because it's to unrealistic. Wow. Really?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I'm of the in for a penny in for a pound type of people, the
>>>> cymbline
>>>> >> > chips
>>>> >> > had already been written in as a part of the lore, you can bet
>>>> your
>>>> >> > backside
>>>> >> > some crazy mother's going to try and weaponize them. So I just
>>>> >> shrugged,
>>>> >> > said their computers are so far ahead of ours I'll just go with
>>>> it
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> > tried
>>>> >> > not to think about it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > A lot of my friends thought that destroying the 3rd Imperium was
>>>> going
>>>> >> too
>>>> >> > far, oh they should have stopped here and then everything would
>>>> have
>>>> >> come
>>>> >> > back with a bunch of smaller groups. After reading through all of
>>>> the
>>>> >> MT
>>>> >> > source books and Survival Margin that none of the old groups
>>>> deserved
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> > survive with the exceptions of Norris and Craig, they all had far
>>>> too
>>>> >> much
>>>> >> > blood on their hands and every one of them deserved to go,
>>>> although
>>>> >> > getting
>>>> >> > mulched by a thresher might have been a little excessive. Plus,
>>>> the
>>>> >> > problem
>>>> >> > with a bunch of smaller pocket empires is you'd still end up with
>>>> a
>>>> >> war to
>>>> >> > reunite the Imperium, none of them were ever going to willingly
>>>> walk
>>>> >> away
>>>> >> > from the throne. The war would just start up all over again in
>>>> >> another
>>>> >> > decade.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I always wondered about the Spiri, my RCES character was a Spiri
>>>> and
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> > tried
>>>> >> > to play a kind of Buddhist shaman. I have a degree in archaeology
>>>> and
>>>> >> > anthropology but I still had a rough time wrapping my head around
>>>> how
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> > play the character. I probably came across as more of a weed
>>>> smoking,
>>>> >> > tree
>>>> >> > hugging hippy. Then the GM threw in the whole clones of my
>>>> character
>>>> >> > everywhere we went.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
returned it for an iPad. I'd like to try a Surface but at the price I just
can't bring myself to get one as a trial. That combined with the cash I've
"invested" in iTunes makes it difficult to change gears now. It's the ghost
of Steve Job's still screwing with me.
As for Billy and Myriam, real life happens and it's always more important
than some silly game... Unless your RL is the silly game in which case suck
it up buttercup. It's usually the GM's fault when a PBEM tanks, they get
busy and can't keep things moving along or all the players just seem to
bugger off at once, in which case it's not the GM's fault.
From: []
On Behalf Of
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 9:42 AM
To:
Subject: RE: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
"In an e-mail where..."
Yeah, iPads are great, but there are always going to be one-off middle-man
devices. MS has the right idea with Surface, but they don't seem to be
catching on. Apple still leading in style over substance.
Yeah, I liked the Billy Vowells/Myriam thing too. Too bad I lost the
thread back then.
> Perhaps, but if the mucus in your sinuses is the consistency of Mono brand
> window caulk the CPAP does precisely 2 things, jack and shit.
>
>
>
> Heterochromia is the condition of having 2 distinctly different colors, it
> can apply to the eyes Heterochromia Iridis but can also apply to the skin
> or
> hair. Of course that's neither here nor there.
>
>
>
> I had the desire at one time to try monkeying with the logs and turn them
> into a kind of novel, or even make them look like a screen play. It would
> actually work fairly easily with the IRC logs I think. But I got side
> tracked, squirrel!, and then became the father of the ADHD poster child
> and
> so that kind of fell by the way side. I've started writing a bit
> recently,
> but I've yet to find something that'll allow me to easily port documents
> back and forth between the iPad and the PC.
>
>
>
> I rather liked the Billy Vowells / Myriam dynamic. The story's progressed
> since then, Billy and Myriam are still there, and the survival horror
> dynamic is back. No sleeping psinonics this time though.
>
>
>
> For some reason talking about books and scripts and survival horror
> suddenly
> brought this to mind, makes me laugh every time but it kind of sums up the
> pictures that storm through my head.
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro
>
>
>
>
>
> From: []
> On Behalf Of
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:42 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
>
>
>
>
>
> Sorry you're not feeling well. One of the only side-benefits of sleep
> apnea is that the CPAP machine blows that out when it's time to go to
> sleep.
>
> Heterochromic is a word with which I am not familiar. I might try
> "Huskyish" or "David Bowieish" until someone corrected me.
>
> Re: the log, that sounds likely. It was pretty episodic, and for the time
> I was in Distant Suns, I was reminded of it in that you used a very
> detailed, narrative style that could easily be moved over into a story of
> that kind.
>
>> As I lay here trying to sleep, I've had a cold for 2 weeks and my head
>> is
>> one giant blob of ick, it occures to me that the clones from my game
>> might
>> have been heterochromic? I think thats the word, one blue one green eye.
>>
>> It would be in the game logs I'll look it up later. It was an IRC based
>> game with players from all over the world. Crashed and burned after
>> about
>> 2 years, it was hard to get everyone on line at the same time.
>>
>> Derek Stanley
>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>
>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:18, DEREK STANLEY <> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not that I recall, I borrowed the idea a while later in my own campaign
>>> and had the players run into a free trader starship with a captain and
>>> a
>>> crew of 4 clones. I don't remember ever writing about it beyond that.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 0:51, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Did you have clones a lot in your TNE games? Not exactly standard TNE
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> I thought you had some Traveller fiction on line someplace. Starship
>>>> crews, female main characters, stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> Lots of blue and green.
>>>>
>>>> Am I thinking of someone else?
>>>>
>>>> > Clones.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm the type of player who like / needs to write character
>>>> backgrounds. I
>>>> > need to know where my character's coming from and where they're
>>>> going.
>>>> > Voodoo had a fairly well laid out background including a 1 year
>>>> blank
>>>> > spot.
>>>> >
>>>> > When I was much younger I aspired to write, despite the fact that I
>>>> lack
>>>> > even the most basic grasp of spelling and punctuation, and that kind
>>>> of
>>>> > carried over into character building. When I built a character it
>>>> aways
>>>> > had 3 or 4 largish plot hooks for the GM so he didn't have to do all
>>>> the
>>>> > heavy lifting.
>>>> >
>>>> > Basically Voodoo wandered off into the snow one winters eve and
>>>> returned a
>>>> > year later with no memory of the events that had transpired and a
>>>> child.
>>>> > I'm not entirely sure why or what inspired him to fill that void
>>>> with
>>>> a
>>>> > clone plot line, he's been dead for 15 years so I can't ask him, at
>>>> any
>>>> > rate every where we went in the wilds we'd invariably run into one
>>>> of
>>>> > Voodoo's clones. I think we met 6 all told, by the end I wasn't even
>>>> sure
>>>> > if I was just another clone or the original.
>>>> >
>>>> > Ya the Spiri bit amounts to 2 or 3 sentances. I just took it and ran
>>>> with
>>>> > it.
>>>> >
>>>> > Derek Stanley
>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>> >
>>>> >> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:20 PM, wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> You're definitely one of the people that TNE was a really good fit
>>>> for.
>>>> >> Whatever that says about you, me, Frank, and what Frank I expected
>>>> >> other
>>>> >> people to be like, who knows.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Re: being eaten by a thresher, I think he deliberately walked into
>>>> it,
>>>> >> knowing that he had caused it, and thinking that was a reasonably
>>>> >> fitting
>>>> >> end. I think it was for him a bit of a grace note at the end,
>>>> finally
>>>> >> owning up to it all, rather than making people hunt him down and
>>>> kill
>>>> >> him
>>>> >> or put him on trial. Icky to be sure, but dead is dead.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Yes, I agree with you about the pocket empires. If you let the
>>>> >> Rebellion
>>>> >> sputter down to heat death, they're still enemy empires and don't
>>>> get
>>>> >> along, and have not learned anything. They'll just start fighting
>>>> again
>>>> >> so
>>>> >> there is nothing to be gained going that way.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I can't remember much about the Spiri. I think the guys with the
>>>> facial
>>>> >> tattoos were Lutahlens, right? I assume you have access to PoT,
>>>> right?
>>>> >> All
>>>> >> there is is in there.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Clones?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > This was always something that made me laugh about the old guard,
>>>> so
>>>> >> > you're
>>>> >> > willing to let go Jump Drives that take you from a to b in a week
>>>> >> > regardless
>>>> >> > of the real distance travelled, Anti-Gravity, genetically
>>>> engineered
>>>> >> > Wolves,
>>>> >> > Pocket Dimensions, psionics and the human race being seeded all
>>>> over
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> > galaxy but a silicon based life form that can live inside of
>>>> computers
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> > completely off because it's to unrealistic. Wow. Really?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I'm of the in for a penny in for a pound type of people, the
>>>> cymbline
>>>> >> > chips
>>>> >> > had already been written in as a part of the lore, you can bet
>>>> your
>>>> >> > backside
>>>> >> > some crazy mother's going to try and weaponize them. So I just
>>>> >> shrugged,
>>>> >> > said their computers are so far ahead of ours I'll just go with
>>>> it
>>>> >> and
>>>> >> > tried
>>>> >> > not to think about it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > A lot of my friends thought that destroying the 3rd Imperium was
>>>> going
>>>> >> too
>>>> >> > far, oh they should have stopped here and then everything would
>>>> have
>>>> >> come
>>>> >> > back with a bunch of smaller groups. After reading through all of
>>>> the
>>>> >> MT
>>>> >> > source books and Survival Margin that none of the old groups
>>>> deserved
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> > survive with the exceptions of Norris and Craig, they all had far
>>>> too
>>>> >> much
>>>> >> > blood on their hands and every one of them deserved to go,
>>>> although
>>>> >> > getting
>>>> >> > mulched by a thresher might have been a little excessive. Plus,
>>>> the
>>>> >> > problem
>>>> >> > with a bunch of smaller pocket empires is you'd still end up with
>>>> a
>>>> >> war to
>>>> >> > reunite the Imperium, none of them were ever going to willingly
>>>> walk
>>>> >> away
>>>> >> > from the throne. The war would just start up all over again in
>>>> >> another
>>>> >> > decade.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I always wondered about the Spiri, my RCES character was a Spiri
>>>> and
>>>> >> I
>>>> >> > tried
>>>> >> > to play a kind of Buddhist shaman. I have a degree in archaeology
>>>> and
>>>> >> > anthropology but I still had a rough time wrapping my head around
>>>> how
>>>> >> to
>>>> >> > play the character. I probably came across as more of a weed
>>>> smoking,
>>>> >> > tree
>>>> >> > hugging hippy. Then the GM threw in the whole clones of my
>>>> character
>>>> >> > everywhere we went.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>