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should be, "...but THEY are always going to be..."
> "In an e-mail where..."
>
> Yeah, iPads are great, but there are always going to be one-off middle-man
> devices. MS has the right idea with Surface, but they don't seem to be
> catching on. Apple still leading in style over substance.
>
> Yeah, I liked the Billy Vowells/Myriam thing too. Too bad I lost the
> thread back then.
>
>
>
>> Perhaps, but if the mucus in your sinuses is the consistency of Mono
>> brand
>> window caulk the CPAP does precisely 2 things, jack and shit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Heterochromia is the condition of having 2 distinctly different colors,
>> it
>> can apply to the eyes Heterochromia Iridis but can also apply to the
>> skin
>> or
>> hair. Of course that's neither here nor there.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had the desire at one time to try monkeying with the logs and turn
>> them
>> into a kind of novel, or even make them look like a screen play. It
>> would
>> actually work fairly easily with the IRC logs I think. But I got side
>> tracked, squirrel!, and then became the father of the ADHD poster child
>> and
>> so that kind of fell by the way side. I've started writing a bit
>> recently,
>> but I've yet to find something that'll allow me to easily port documents
>> back and forth between the iPad and the PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> I rather liked the Billy Vowells / Myriam dynamic. The story's
>> progressed
>> since then, Billy and Myriam are still there, and the survival horror
>> dynamic is back. No sleeping psinonics this time though.
>>
>>
>>
>> For some reason talking about books and scripts and survival horror
>> suddenly
>> brought this to mind, makes me laugh every time but it kind of sums up
>> the
>> pictures that storm through my head.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:
>> []
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:42 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry you're not feeling well. One of the only side-benefits of sleep
>> apnea is that the CPAP machine blows that out when it's time to go to
>> sleep.
>>
>> Heterochromic is a word with which I am not familiar. I might try
>> "Huskyish" or "David Bowieish" until someone corrected me.
>>
>> Re: the log, that sounds likely. It was pretty episodic, and for the
>> time
>> I was in Distant Suns, I was reminded of it in that you used a very
>> detailed, narrative style that could easily be moved over into a story
>> of
>> that kind.
>>
>>> As I lay here trying to sleep, I've had a cold for 2 weeks and my head
>>> is
>>> one giant blob of ick, it occures to me that the clones from my game
>>> might
>>> have been heterochromic? I think thats the word, one blue one green
>>> eye.
>>>
>>> It would be in the game logs I'll look it up later. It was an IRC based
>>> game with players from all over the world. Crashed and burned after
>>> about
>>> 2 years, it was hard to get everyone on line at the same time.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:18, DEREK STANLEY <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not that I recall, I borrowed the idea a while later in my own
>>>> campaign
>>>> and had the players run into a free trader starship with a captain and
>>>> a
>>>> crew of 4 clones. I don't remember ever writing about it beyond that.
>>>>
>>>> Derek Stanley
>>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 0:51, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you have clones a lot in your TNE games? Not exactly standard TNE
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you had some Traveller fiction on line someplace. Starship
>>>>> crews, female main characters, stuff like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of blue and green.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I thinking of someone else?
>>>>>
>>>>> > Clones.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm the type of player who like / needs to write character
>>>>> backgrounds. I
>>>>> > need to know where my character's coming from and where they're
>>>>> going.
>>>>> > Voodoo had a fairly well laid out background including a 1 year
>>>>> blank
>>>>> > spot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > When I was much younger I aspired to write, despite the fact that I
>>>>> lack
>>>>> > even the most basic grasp of spelling and punctuation, and that
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> > carried over into character building. When I built a character it
>>>>> aways
>>>>> > had 3 or 4 largish plot hooks for the GM so he didn't have to do
>>>>> all
>>>>> the
>>>>> > heavy lifting.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Basically Voodoo wandered off into the snow one winters eve and
>>>>> returned a
>>>>> > year later with no memory of the events that had transpired and a
>>>>> child.
>>>>> > I'm not entirely sure why or what inspired him to fill that void
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> > clone plot line, he's been dead for 15 years so I can't ask him, at
>>>>> any
>>>>> > rate every where we went in the wilds we'd invariably run into one
>>>>> of
>>>>> > Voodoo's clones. I think we met 6 all told, by the end I wasn't
>>>>> even
>>>>> sure
>>>>> > if I was just another clone or the original.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ya the Spiri bit amounts to 2 or 3 sentances. I just took it and
>>>>> ran
>>>>> with
>>>>> > it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Derek Stanley
>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:20 PM, wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You're definitely one of the people that TNE was a really good fit
>>>>> for.
>>>>> >> Whatever that says about you, me, Frank, and what Frank I expected
>>>>> >> other
>>>>> >> people to be like, who knows.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Re: being eaten by a thresher, I think he deliberately walked into
>>>>> it,
>>>>> >> knowing that he had caused it, and thinking that was a reasonably
>>>>> >> fitting
>>>>> >> end. I think it was for him a bit of a grace note at the end,
>>>>> finally
>>>>> >> owning up to it all, rather than making people hunt him down and
>>>>> kill
>>>>> >> him
>>>>> >> or put him on trial. Icky to be sure, but dead is dead.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yes, I agree with you about the pocket empires. If you let the
>>>>> >> Rebellion
>>>>> >> sputter down to heat death, they're still enemy empires and don't
>>>>> get
>>>>> >> along, and have not learned anything. They'll just start fighting
>>>>> again
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >> there is nothing to be gained going that way.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I can't remember much about the Spiri. I think the guys with the
>>>>> facial
>>>>> >> tattoos were Lutahlens, right? I assume you have access to PoT,
>>>>> right?
>>>>> >> All
>>>>> >> there is is in there.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Clones?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > This was always something that made me laugh about the old
>>>>> guard,
>>>>> so
>>>>> >> > you're
>>>>> >> > willing to let go Jump Drives that take you from a to b in a
>>>>> week
>>>>> >> > regardless
>>>>> >> > of the real distance travelled, Anti-Gravity, genetically
>>>>> engineered
>>>>> >> > Wolves,
>>>>> >> > Pocket Dimensions, psionics and the human race being seeded all
>>>>> over
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> > galaxy but a silicon based life form that can live inside of
>>>>> computers
>>>>> >> is
>>>>> >> > completely off because it's to unrealistic. Wow. Really?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I'm of the in for a penny in for a pound type of people, the
>>>>> cymbline
>>>>> >> > chips
>>>>> >> > had already been written in as a part of the lore, you can bet
>>>>> your
>>>>> >> > backside
>>>>> >> > some crazy mother's going to try and weaponize them. So I just
>>>>> >> shrugged,
>>>>> >> > said their computers are so far ahead of ours I'll just go with
>>>>> it
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> > tried
>>>>> >> > not to think about it.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > A lot of my friends thought that destroying the 3rd Imperium was
>>>>> going
>>>>> >> too
>>>>> >> > far, oh they should have stopped here and then everything would
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> come
>>>>> >> > back with a bunch of smaller groups. After reading through all
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> MT
>>>>> >> > source books and Survival Margin that none of the old groups
>>>>> deserved
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> > survive with the exceptions of Norris and Craig, they all had
>>>>> far
>>>>> too
>>>>> >> much
>>>>> >> > blood on their hands and every one of them deserved to go,
>>>>> although
>>>>> >> > getting
>>>>> >> > mulched by a thresher might have been a little excessive. Plus,
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> > problem
>>>>> >> > with a bunch of smaller pocket empires is you'd still end up
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> war to
>>>>> >> > reunite the Imperium, none of them were ever going to willingly
>>>>> walk
>>>>> >> away
>>>>> >> > from the throne. The war would just start up all over again in
>>>>> >> another
>>>>> >> > decade.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I always wondered about the Spiri, my RCES character was a Spiri
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> > tried
>>>>> >> > to play a kind of Buddhist shaman. I have a degree in
>>>>> archaeology
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> > anthropology but I still had a rough time wrapping my head
>>>>> around
>>>>> how
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> > play the character. I probably came across as more of a weed
>>>>> smoking,
>>>>> >> > tree
>>>>> >> > hugging hippy. Then the GM threw in the whole clones of my
>>>>> character
>>>>> >> > everywhere we went.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
should be, "...but THEY are always going to be..."
> "In an e-mail where..."
>
> Yeah, iPads are great, but there are always going to be one-off middle-man
> devices. MS has the right idea with Surface, but they don't seem to be
> catching on. Apple still leading in style over substance.
>
> Yeah, I liked the Billy Vowells/Myriam thing too. Too bad I lost the
> thread back then.
>
>
>
>> Perhaps, but if the mucus in your sinuses is the consistency of Mono
>> brand
>> window caulk the CPAP does precisely 2 things, jack and shit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Heterochromia is the condition of having 2 distinctly different colors,
>> it
>> can apply to the eyes Heterochromia Iridis but can also apply to the
>> skin
>> or
>> hair. Of course that's neither here nor there.
>>
>>
>>
>> I had the desire at one time to try monkeying with the logs and turn
>> them
>> into a kind of novel, or even make them look like a screen play. It
>> would
>> actually work fairly easily with the IRC logs I think. But I got side
>> tracked, squirrel!, and then became the father of the ADHD poster child
>> and
>> so that kind of fell by the way side. I've started writing a bit
>> recently,
>> but I've yet to find something that'll allow me to easily port documents
>> back and forth between the iPad and the PC.
>>
>>
>>
>> I rather liked the Billy Vowells / Myriam dynamic. The story's
>> progressed
>> since then, Billy and Myriam are still there, and the survival horror
>> dynamic is back. No sleeping psinonics this time though.
>>
>>
>>
>> For some reason talking about books and scripts and survival horror
>> suddenly
>> brought this to mind, makes me laugh every time but it kind of sums up
>> the
>> pictures that storm through my head.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://youtu.be/fVDzuT0fXro
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From:
>> []
>> On Behalf Of
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:42 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Dave's not funny!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry you're not feeling well. One of the only side-benefits of sleep
>> apnea is that the CPAP machine blows that out when it's time to go to
>> sleep.
>>
>> Heterochromic is a word with which I am not familiar. I might try
>> "Huskyish" or "David Bowieish" until someone corrected me.
>>
>> Re: the log, that sounds likely. It was pretty episodic, and for the
>> time
>> I was in Distant Suns, I was reminded of it in that you used a very
>> detailed, narrative style that could easily be moved over into a story
>> of
>> that kind.
>>
>>> As I lay here trying to sleep, I've had a cold for 2 weeks and my head
>>> is
>>> one giant blob of ick, it occures to me that the clones from my game
>>> might
>>> have been heterochromic? I think thats the word, one blue one green
>>> eye.
>>>
>>> It would be in the game logs I'll look it up later. It was an IRC based
>>> game with players from all over the world. Crashed and burned after
>>> about
>>> 2 years, it was hard to get everyone on line at the same time.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>
>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:18, DEREK STANLEY <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Not that I recall, I borrowed the idea a while later in my own
>>>> campaign
>>>> and had the players run into a free trader starship with a captain and
>>>> a
>>>> crew of 4 clones. I don't remember ever writing about it beyond that.
>>>>
>>>> Derek Stanley
>>>> Sent from my iPhone...
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2014, at 0:51, wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you have clones a lot in your TNE games? Not exactly standard TNE
>>>>> issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought you had some Traveller fiction on line someplace. Starship
>>>>> crews, female main characters, stuff like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lots of blue and green.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I thinking of someone else?
>>>>>
>>>>> > Clones.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm the type of player who like / needs to write character
>>>>> backgrounds. I
>>>>> > need to know where my character's coming from and where they're
>>>>> going.
>>>>> > Voodoo had a fairly well laid out background including a 1 year
>>>>> blank
>>>>> > spot.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > When I was much younger I aspired to write, despite the fact that I
>>>>> lack
>>>>> > even the most basic grasp of spelling and punctuation, and that
>>>>> kind
>>>>> of
>>>>> > carried over into character building. When I built a character it
>>>>> aways
>>>>> > had 3 or 4 largish plot hooks for the GM so he didn't have to do
>>>>> all
>>>>> the
>>>>> > heavy lifting.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Basically Voodoo wandered off into the snow one winters eve and
>>>>> returned a
>>>>> > year later with no memory of the events that had transpired and a
>>>>> child.
>>>>> > I'm not entirely sure why or what inspired him to fill that void
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> > clone plot line, he's been dead for 15 years so I can't ask him, at
>>>>> any
>>>>> > rate every where we went in the wilds we'd invariably run into one
>>>>> of
>>>>> > Voodoo's clones. I think we met 6 all told, by the end I wasn't
>>>>> even
>>>>> sure
>>>>> > if I was just another clone or the original.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Ya the Spiri bit amounts to 2 or 3 sentances. I just took it and
>>>>> ran
>>>>> with
>>>>> > it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Derek Stanley
>>>>> > Sent from my iPad
>>>>> >
>>>>> >> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:20 PM, wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> You're definitely one of the people that TNE was a really good fit
>>>>> for.
>>>>> >> Whatever that says about you, me, Frank, and what Frank I expected
>>>>> >> other
>>>>> >> people to be like, who knows.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Re: being eaten by a thresher, I think he deliberately walked into
>>>>> it,
>>>>> >> knowing that he had caused it, and thinking that was a reasonably
>>>>> >> fitting
>>>>> >> end. I think it was for him a bit of a grace note at the end,
>>>>> finally
>>>>> >> owning up to it all, rather than making people hunt him down and
>>>>> kill
>>>>> >> him
>>>>> >> or put him on trial. Icky to be sure, but dead is dead.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Yes, I agree with you about the pocket empires. If you let the
>>>>> >> Rebellion
>>>>> >> sputter down to heat death, they're still enemy empires and don't
>>>>> get
>>>>> >> along, and have not learned anything. They'll just start fighting
>>>>> again
>>>>> >> so
>>>>> >> there is nothing to be gained going that way.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> I can't remember much about the Spiri. I think the guys with the
>>>>> facial
>>>>> >> tattoos were Lutahlens, right? I assume you have access to PoT,
>>>>> right?
>>>>> >> All
>>>>> >> there is is in there.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Clones?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> > This was always something that made me laugh about the old
>>>>> guard,
>>>>> so
>>>>> >> > you're
>>>>> >> > willing to let go Jump Drives that take you from a to b in a
>>>>> week
>>>>> >> > regardless
>>>>> >> > of the real distance travelled, Anti-Gravity, genetically
>>>>> engineered
>>>>> >> > Wolves,
>>>>> >> > Pocket Dimensions, psionics and the human race being seeded all
>>>>> over
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >> > galaxy but a silicon based life form that can live inside of
>>>>> computers
>>>>> >> is
>>>>> >> > completely off because it's to unrealistic. Wow. Really?
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I'm of the in for a penny in for a pound type of people, the
>>>>> cymbline
>>>>> >> > chips
>>>>> >> > had already been written in as a part of the lore, you can bet
>>>>> your
>>>>> >> > backside
>>>>> >> > some crazy mother's going to try and weaponize them. So I just
>>>>> >> shrugged,
>>>>> >> > said their computers are so far ahead of ours I'll just go with
>>>>> it
>>>>> >> and
>>>>> >> > tried
>>>>> >> > not to think about it.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > A lot of my friends thought that destroying the 3rd Imperium was
>>>>> going
>>>>> >> too
>>>>> >> > far, oh they should have stopped here and then everything would
>>>>> have
>>>>> >> come
>>>>> >> > back with a bunch of smaller groups. After reading through all
>>>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> MT
>>>>> >> > source books and Survival Margin that none of the old groups
>>>>> deserved
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> > survive with the exceptions of Norris and Craig, they all had
>>>>> far
>>>>> too
>>>>> >> much
>>>>> >> > blood on their hands and every one of them deserved to go,
>>>>> although
>>>>> >> > getting
>>>>> >> > mulched by a thresher might have been a little excessive. Plus,
>>>>> the
>>>>> >> > problem
>>>>> >> > with a bunch of smaller pocket empires is you'd still end up
>>>>> with
>>>>> a
>>>>> >> war to
>>>>> >> > reunite the Imperium, none of them were ever going to willingly
>>>>> walk
>>>>> >> away
>>>>> >> > from the throne. The war would just start up all over again in
>>>>> >> another
>>>>> >> > decade.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> > I always wondered about the Spiri, my RCES character was a Spiri
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >> > tried
>>>>> >> > to play a kind of Buddhist shaman. I have a degree in
>>>>> archaeology
>>>>> and
>>>>> >> > anthropology but I still had a rough time wrapping my head
>>>>> around
>>>>> how
>>>>> >> to
>>>>> >> > play the character. I probably came across as more of a weed
>>>>> smoking,
>>>>> >> > tree
>>>>> >> > hugging hippy. Then the GM threw in the whole clones of my
>>>>> character
>>>>> >> > everywhere we went.
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >> >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>