I believe in the Vampire Fleets or another book, it states that a 9N
computer is required to 'host' the virus.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Tim O'Reilly <> wrote:
> **
>
>
> possibly true dat but it sorta begs the question how much ram/whatever is
> needed for this AI virus? How much then would be on a typical hand-held
> device?
> Depending on whose data pad is used it might have enough for the virus to
> spread, but if not, then maybe not such a problem ... still and all most
> ships/stations could get infected via what are considered secure links. On
> the flip side secure systems are constantly monitored for infection,
> because infections of one kind or another happen all the time. The only
> real difference here is that virus can write-rewrite chips in order to give
> it a home.
> Tim
>
>
> *From:* Rupert Boleyn <>
> *To:*
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:34 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Opposition Alliance
> **
>
> On 25/10/2012 05:24, Richard Perks wrote:
>
> > As for people being able to modifiy the transponder. Its designed to
> > stop that, I think they said the deyo has anti-tamper than reduces
> > the transponder to slag and the evolution rate of the virus is
> > constant so if you turn it off, your transponder is out of sync and
> > you can't resync. It is designed to show tampering so the IN / SPA /
> > other ships knopw you have a dubious transponder. Yes people can turn
> > them off but not back on in any useable fashion
>
> I expect that a skilled crew could mute one without making it show as
> dubious, the same way that a military one can be - if they know that
> this is an option, which they won't unless they're privy to some
> extremely classified information on the transponder's nature.
>
> However, in my view that's not really the problem. the real problem is
> the ubiquitous nature of datalinks in the Imperium and its neighbours.
> Once Virus is in a system, it's in everything that touches that system,
> and everything that touches that system... There will be eggs in the
> mail, every ship that docks with a station will link to its network to
> do business, download the news, and so on, so they spread Virus, or get
> infected (or both).
>
> So your ship doesn't hook into the local net, because you're dodgy and
> the locals are dodgy and everyone is happier that way. It's all good -
> until your cargomaster takes his tablet with him when making a pickup on
> some cargo, and it gets infected. Then he brings it, and the egg it
> carries, on board. Sometime in the next few days, your ship is no longer
> yours.
>
> If you're using gear past TL7, basically, you're screwed, and death
> travels with you.
> ****
>
>
>
--
If the world was fair then every bad thing that has ever happened to you
would have been deserved.
computer is required to 'host' the virus.
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 7:33 AM, Tim O'Reilly <> wrote:
> **
>
>
> possibly true dat but it sorta begs the question how much ram/whatever is
> needed for this AI virus? How much then would be on a typical hand-held
> device?
> Depending on whose data pad is used it might have enough for the virus to
> spread, but if not, then maybe not such a problem ... still and all most
> ships/stations could get infected via what are considered secure links. On
> the flip side secure systems are constantly monitored for infection,
> because infections of one kind or another happen all the time. The only
> real difference here is that virus can write-rewrite chips in order to give
> it a home.
> Tim
>
>
> *From:* Rupert Boleyn <>
> *To:*
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2012 4:34 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Traveller_TNE] Re: Opposition Alliance
> **
>
> On 25/10/2012 05:24, Richard Perks wrote:
>
> > As for people being able to modifiy the transponder. Its designed to
> > stop that, I think they said the deyo has anti-tamper than reduces
> > the transponder to slag and the evolution rate of the virus is
> > constant so if you turn it off, your transponder is out of sync and
> > you can't resync. It is designed to show tampering so the IN / SPA /
> > other ships knopw you have a dubious transponder. Yes people can turn
> > them off but not back on in any useable fashion
>
> I expect that a skilled crew could mute one without making it show as
> dubious, the same way that a military one can be - if they know that
> this is an option, which they won't unless they're privy to some
> extremely classified information on the transponder's nature.
>
> However, in my view that's not really the problem. the real problem is
> the ubiquitous nature of datalinks in the Imperium and its neighbours.
> Once Virus is in a system, it's in everything that touches that system,
> and everything that touches that system... There will be eggs in the
> mail, every ship that docks with a station will link to its network to
> do business, download the news, and so on, so they spread Virus, or get
> infected (or both).
>
> So your ship doesn't hook into the local net, because you're dodgy and
> the locals are dodgy and everyone is happier that way. It's all good -
> until your cargomaster takes his tablet with him when making a pickup on
> some cargo, and it gets infected. Then he brings it, and the egg it
> carries, on board. Sometime in the next few days, your ship is no longer
> yours.
>
> If you're using gear past TL7, basically, you're screwed, and death
> travels with you.
> ****
>
>
>
--
If the world was fair then every bad thing that has ever happened to you
would have been deserved.