Thanks for the reality check, Harry (I think). Brutal story. Glad you're still around to tell it.
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DED
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--- In , "dragoondelight" wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have been attacked in the real world and your question spurred some memories. I was 180, fit, 5'8" and 30. I was attacked by a Golden Labrador with hyper aggressive tendencies weighing 85+. I responded to the the dog barking constantly. It led me to where a black Labrador female was penned to prevent her being gotten at.
>
> I looked at the dog, told it No I would not let him in. He sat back and then pounced on me, hitting me with both forelegs and knocking my feet out of my shoes (ripped shoe tops out, both) and bruising my upper chest. Lost breath and slightly dazed at the NO warning attack. It went for my throat, I immediately and knowingly ducked my face into the bite. Felt like I was a hamburger being bit, but the adrenalin surged and I had very, little pain. Fast as that neck strike was, he made a second immediately after and I put my Left Arm in his mouth. He never let go of that arm (he did not puncture the clothing, but I still have a vivid V shaped scar at the left inner elbow. No bleeding there but heavy skin damage due to pressure).
>
> I choked the dog with its chain choke collar but the thick muscles prevented me from knocking him out with a one hand grasp. Though his eyes glazed, he still held on. Twenty minutes later, a neighbor came out and the dog was up and at me again. With the neighbors help we got him detached and locked up.
>
> My Point, I would NEVER let the dog bite my throat even if he got my face. The face wound was over six inches by four and had strings of fat from face hanging out. My doctor would not treat, but sent me to the emergency room. Point here face wounds often are non-critical. Ironically, my mother always took care of the dogs and if he had attacked her it would have killed her. (5ft, 120lbs, 55, secretary). I was actually happy with the result afterwards. The dog was diagnosed as brain tumor, but maybenot. It had to put it down.
>
> I frequently read of "baring the throat", but I would/did NOT and do not think any rational being would, unless there were cultural, racial traits for it. I have seen Pit Bulls tear other dogs up and they do NOT to my knowledge, back off like other dogs.
>
> Any fight where someone strikes for the throat with their teeth would also force the attacker into a more vulnerable position. I would be inclined to make the attempt a low one to succeed, but higher to hit with the resultant counterattack possibly being worse for the attacker. Still we are talking seconds of action and from my experience shock did NOT set in. Everyone else was much more affected by my wounds looks. If I had a knife or bludgeon the dog would have been mincemeat.
>
> "Going for the throat" is an all out attack, exposing the attacker to hand held weaponry.
>
> Posted for thoughts as a real experience.
>
> Thanks, Harry
>
> --- In , "DED" wrote:
> >
> > I don't speak GURPS so that doesn't really help. But, thanks anyway, Claude. You already helped out tremendously on that other stuff I off-listed you about. :)
> >
> > \_/
> > DED
> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >
> > --- In , "Claude Murdoch" wrote:
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, GURPS Traveller uses "15 points" advantage for Aslan dewclaws, and lists Vargr "teeth" at a "5 point" advantage.
> > >
> >
>
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DED
TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
--- In , "dragoondelight" wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have been attacked in the real world and your question spurred some memories. I was 180, fit, 5'8" and 30. I was attacked by a Golden Labrador with hyper aggressive tendencies weighing 85+. I responded to the the dog barking constantly. It led me to where a black Labrador female was penned to prevent her being gotten at.
>
> I looked at the dog, told it No I would not let him in. He sat back and then pounced on me, hitting me with both forelegs and knocking my feet out of my shoes (ripped shoe tops out, both) and bruising my upper chest. Lost breath and slightly dazed at the NO warning attack. It went for my throat, I immediately and knowingly ducked my face into the bite. Felt like I was a hamburger being bit, but the adrenalin surged and I had very, little pain. Fast as that neck strike was, he made a second immediately after and I put my Left Arm in his mouth. He never let go of that arm (he did not puncture the clothing, but I still have a vivid V shaped scar at the left inner elbow. No bleeding there but heavy skin damage due to pressure).
>
> I choked the dog with its chain choke collar but the thick muscles prevented me from knocking him out with a one hand grasp. Though his eyes glazed, he still held on. Twenty minutes later, a neighbor came out and the dog was up and at me again. With the neighbors help we got him detached and locked up.
>
> My Point, I would NEVER let the dog bite my throat even if he got my face. The face wound was over six inches by four and had strings of fat from face hanging out. My doctor would not treat, but sent me to the emergency room. Point here face wounds often are non-critical. Ironically, my mother always took care of the dogs and if he had attacked her it would have killed her. (5ft, 120lbs, 55, secretary). I was actually happy with the result afterwards. The dog was diagnosed as brain tumor, but maybenot. It had to put it down.
>
> I frequently read of "baring the throat", but I would/did NOT and do not think any rational being would, unless there were cultural, racial traits for it. I have seen Pit Bulls tear other dogs up and they do NOT to my knowledge, back off like other dogs.
>
> Any fight where someone strikes for the throat with their teeth would also force the attacker into a more vulnerable position. I would be inclined to make the attempt a low one to succeed, but higher to hit with the resultant counterattack possibly being worse for the attacker. Still we are talking seconds of action and from my experience shock did NOT set in. Everyone else was much more affected by my wounds looks. If I had a knife or bludgeon the dog would have been mincemeat.
>
> "Going for the throat" is an all out attack, exposing the attacker to hand held weaponry.
>
> Posted for thoughts as a real experience.
>
> Thanks, Harry
>
> --- In , "DED" wrote:
> >
> > I don't speak GURPS so that doesn't really help. But, thanks anyway, Claude. You already helped out tremendously on that other stuff I off-listed you about. :)
> >
> > \_/
> > DED
> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >
> > --- In , "Claude Murdoch" wrote:
> > >
> > > For what it's worth, GURPS Traveller uses "15 points" advantage for Aslan dewclaws, and lists Vargr "teeth" at a "5 point" advantage.
> > >
> >
>