Well, I read it once - and it was such an interesting situation that I never really forgot it.
A bit like TNE! ;)
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On Tue, 24/2/15, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] RC Shipbuilding
To:
Date: Tuesday, 24 February, 2015, 16:03
That's a truly remarkable bit of research, or
memory, or trivia. I just
remember seeing all of the acres of bedless pickups with
beds strapped to
them down in Norfolk and asked around, but never learned
which specific
law it was.
> That was because of something called the "Chicken
Tax".
>
> Basically it was a punitive measure in response to
French and German
> tariffs on US Chicken in the early 1960s. Domestic
politics added light
> truck importation to the items the Chicken Tax hit.
>
> Light truck covered commercial trucks and pick-ups, so
manufacturers get
> around the restriction as best they could. Japan by
exporting the cab and
> chassis, others allowing knock-down assembly, and Ford
by importing
> European Ford trucks in passenger configuration - then
stripping them back
> to light truck.
>
> Necessity is the mother of all work-arounds.
>
> Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 23/2/15, [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] RC Shipbuilding
> To:
> Date: Monday, 23 February, 2015, 15:20
>
>
>
> I don't know if this is still the case,
but
> several years ago they would
>
> ship Toyota and Mazda pickup trucks from Japan in
two
> pieces, the truck
>
> without the pickup bed, and the pickup bed. For
some
> (probably tax,
>
> importation, or customs purposes) they were
considered
> "parts" which were
>
> "assembled in the USA" by bolting the bed
on. They
> used some specific term
>
> like "final assembly" or "assembly
in
> US" to distinguish it from "made in
>
> the US."
>
>
>
> > I'd add the following descriptions to them:E
- if
> you bribe the locals and
>
> > provide your own tech support, you could assemble
a
> fuel pump to get
>
> > unrefined fuel.ÃâàExpect it to break
before you have
> full tanks though.
>
> > D - If you bribe the locals and help assemble
the
> filtration equipment,
>
> > you can get a temporary working pump to provide
refined
> fuel.ÃâàExpect it
>
> > to break before you have full tanks though.C -
Can
> assemble a (non-jump)
>
> > spaceship built at a tech B Spaceport, at a +30%
or
> higher markup, plus
>
> > you have to either choose from whatever is
available,
> or wait for a
>
> > courier to get to the Class B starport, and a
freighter
> to bring the ship
>
> > to you.ÃâàLittle more than plug Tab A into
slot A,
> this spaceship will
>
> > need after-market maintenance to ensure
everything is
> in working order.ÃâÃÂ
>
> > The GM should pick one or two standard ships, and
this
> is all that is
>
> > available.B - Can assemble a jump-capable
spaceship
> built at a tech A
>
> > planet, at a +30% or higher markup, plus you have
to
> either choose from
>
> > whatever is available, or wait for a courier to
get to
> the Class A
>
> > starport, and a freighter to bring the ship to
you.ÃâÃÂ
> Little more than
>
> > plug Tab A into slot A, this spaceship will
need
> after-market maintenance
>
> > to ensure everything is in working
order.ÃâàThe GM
> should pick one or two
>
> > standard ships, and this is all that is
available.
>
> > Essentially, the Class A starport builds the
pieces of
> the ship, and ships
>
> > them via freight to a Class B starport to be
put
> together.ÃâàThis keeps
>
> > the Class A starport ship slots empty for proper
use,
> and allows the Class
>
> > B starport technicians practice at assembling
ships.
>
> > I'm trying to remember the name of where
one
> factory in a higher tech
>
> > nation assembles the key parts, and another
nation
> assembles them.
>
> > Todd Kes
>
> >
>
> > From: "Harold Hale
> [Traveller_TNE]"
>
> > <>
>
> >
>
> > The way I always ran it, starports could be on
the
> ground/water, in the
>
> > sky (floating cities), or in low orbit and had
the
> following capabilities:
>
> > E - Basically a place to park. A place to do Han
Solo
> and Chewbacca field
>
> > repairs, assuming they actually decide to listen
to the
> translator droid,
>
> > without worrying about the local wildlife chewing
on
> power cables.
>
> > D - A place to get unrefined fuel, Maybe barter
for a
> spare part of two
>
> > (selection varies wildly). Real landing lights
and
> maybe a chance to park
>
> > out of the weather (if there is weather).
Restaurants
> and other
>
> > accommodations, but not a lot of
variety.ÃâàNot
> necessarily seedy, but not
>
> > a place you want to hang out at either.
>
> > C - Refined fuel, actual terminals and
commercial
> landing areas. Good
>
> > food, better places to sleep off the ship,
standard
> selection of spare
>
> > parts, wider variety of other facilities.
Maintenance
> facilities for
>
> > starships, can also do minor repairs or
"make
> do" repairs until you get to
>
> > a "real" starport.
>
> > B - Everything at a C starport but more so. Can
do all
> starship
>
> > maintenance, including major repairs and
overhauls. Can
> build non-jump
>
> > capable craft, though usually only standard
designs.
>
> > A - First rate facilities and accommodations.
Could
> build a starship from
>
> > scratch.
>
> >
>
> > Better the starport, more likely that they will
have a
> combination of
>
> > terrestrial and orbital facilities.
>
> > All this means that my RC would have no
problem
> cranking out starships so
>
> > long as the supply of salvaged jump drives or
Hiver
> imports holds out. You
>
> > might argue that Aubaine's starport is
actually a
> 'B+', in that they are
>
> > designing and building what amount to starships,
though
> I would argue that
>
> > in reality they are simply taking advantage of
other
> people's work by
>
> > building spacecraft (as opposed to starships)
that can
> have a jump drive
>
> > slapped in them. Pimping someone's ride
doesn't
> make you Dodge or Toyota.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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A bit like TNE! ;)
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On Tue, 24/2/15, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] RC Shipbuilding
To:
Date: Tuesday, 24 February, 2015, 16:03
That's a truly remarkable bit of research, or
memory, or trivia. I just
remember seeing all of the acres of bedless pickups with
beds strapped to
them down in Norfolk and asked around, but never learned
which specific
law it was.
> That was because of something called the "Chicken
Tax".
>
> Basically it was a punitive measure in response to
French and German
> tariffs on US Chicken in the early 1960s. Domestic
politics added light
> truck importation to the items the Chicken Tax hit.
>
> Light truck covered commercial trucks and pick-ups, so
manufacturers get
> around the restriction as best they could. Japan by
exporting the cab and
> chassis, others allowing knock-down assembly, and Ford
by importing
> European Ford trucks in passenger configuration - then
stripping them back
> to light truck.
>
> Necessity is the mother of all work-arounds.
>
> Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_tax
> --------------------------------------------
> On Mon, 23/2/15, [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] RC Shipbuilding
> To:
> Date: Monday, 23 February, 2015, 15:20
>
>
>
> I don't know if this is still the case,
but
> several years ago they would
>
> ship Toyota and Mazda pickup trucks from Japan in
two
> pieces, the truck
>
> without the pickup bed, and the pickup bed. For
some
> (probably tax,
>
> importation, or customs purposes) they were
considered
> "parts" which were
>
> "assembled in the USA" by bolting the bed
on. They
> used some specific term
>
> like "final assembly" or "assembly
in
> US" to distinguish it from "made in
>
> the US."
>
>
>
> > I'd add the following descriptions to them:E
- if
> you bribe the locals and
>
> > provide your own tech support, you could assemble
a
> fuel pump to get
>
> > unrefined fuel.ÃâàExpect it to break
before you have
> full tanks though.
>
> > D - If you bribe the locals and help assemble
the
> filtration equipment,
>
> > you can get a temporary working pump to provide
refined
> fuel.ÃâàExpect it
>
> > to break before you have full tanks though.C -
Can
> assemble a (non-jump)
>
> > spaceship built at a tech B Spaceport, at a +30%
or
> higher markup, plus
>
> > you have to either choose from whatever is
available,
> or wait for a
>
> > courier to get to the Class B starport, and a
freighter
> to bring the ship
>
> > to you.ÃâàLittle more than plug Tab A into
slot A,
> this spaceship will
>
> > need after-market maintenance to ensure
everything is
> in working order.ÃâÃÂ
>
> > The GM should pick one or two standard ships, and
this
> is all that is
>
> > available.B - Can assemble a jump-capable
spaceship
> built at a tech A
>
> > planet, at a +30% or higher markup, plus you have
to
> either choose from
>
> > whatever is available, or wait for a courier to
get to
> the Class A
>
> > starport, and a freighter to bring the ship to
you.ÃâÃÂ
> Little more than
>
> > plug Tab A into slot A, this spaceship will
need
> after-market maintenance
>
> > to ensure everything is in working
order.ÃâàThe GM
> should pick one or two
>
> > standard ships, and this is all that is
available.
>
> > Essentially, the Class A starport builds the
pieces of
> the ship, and ships
>
> > them via freight to a Class B starport to be
put
> together.ÃâàThis keeps
>
> > the Class A starport ship slots empty for proper
use,
> and allows the Class
>
> > B starport technicians practice at assembling
ships.
>
> > I'm trying to remember the name of where
one
> factory in a higher tech
>
> > nation assembles the key parts, and another
nation
> assembles them.
>
> > Todd Kes
>
> >
>
> > From: "Harold Hale
> [Traveller_TNE]"
>
> > <>
>
> >
>
> > The way I always ran it, starports could be on
the
> ground/water, in the
>
> > sky (floating cities), or in low orbit and had
the
> following capabilities:
>
> > E - Basically a place to park. A place to do Han
Solo
> and Chewbacca field
>
> > repairs, assuming they actually decide to listen
to the
> translator droid,
>
> > without worrying about the local wildlife chewing
on
> power cables.
>
> > D - A place to get unrefined fuel, Maybe barter
for a
> spare part of two
>
> > (selection varies wildly). Real landing lights
and
> maybe a chance to park
>
> > out of the weather (if there is weather).
Restaurants
> and other
>
> > accommodations, but not a lot of
variety.ÃâàNot
> necessarily seedy, but not
>
> > a place you want to hang out at either.
>
> > C - Refined fuel, actual terminals and
commercial
> landing areas. Good
>
> > food, better places to sleep off the ship,
standard
> selection of spare
>
> > parts, wider variety of other facilities.
Maintenance
> facilities for
>
> > starships, can also do minor repairs or
"make
> do" repairs until you get to
>
> > a "real" starport.
>
> > B - Everything at a C starport but more so. Can
do all
> starship
>
> > maintenance, including major repairs and
overhauls. Can
> build non-jump
>
> > capable craft, though usually only standard
designs.
>
> > A - First rate facilities and accommodations.
Could
> build a starship from
>
> > scratch.
>
> >
>
> > Better the starport, more likely that they will
have a
> combination of
>
> > terrestrial and orbital facilities.
>
> > All this means that my RC would have no
problem
> cranking out starships so
>
> > long as the supply of salvaged jump drives or
Hiver
> imports holds out. You
>
> > might argue that Aubaine's starport is
actually a
> 'B+', in that they are
>
> > designing and building what amount to starships,
though
> I would argue that
>
> > in reality they are simply taking advantage of
other
> people's work by
>
> > building spacecraft (as opposed to starships)
that can
> have a jump drive
>
> > slapped in them. Pimping someone's ride
doesn't
> make you Dodge or Toyota.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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