The Hivers should have figured out that the Droyne were descended from the
Ancients on the archaeological & forensic evidence alone. If there are
Droyne worlds in the Federation, they would also know generally everything
known in the Imperium from coyns to the racial memory.
Generally speaking, I think the idea was Droyne would be looked at like
anyone else either integrated into the Coalition or exterior to it with
distinctions being cultural flavoring & idiosyncrasies, though also begs
the guys in suits & how alien are the aliens discussions.
Hivers attempting manipulations on Droyne nests sounds like fun.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, 06:32 [Traveller_TNE] <
> wrote:
>
>
> I do agree that the Hivers must have made contact with the Droyne worlds.
> The thing here is motivation. The Droyne seem to me to be, well sort of
> stretched-back-take-things-as-they-come kind of race. Their genetic memory
> would be passed on to the next generation. I say this as they don't seem
> to want to expand and make multiple colonies and finally an empire.
>
> Hivers were looking for allies and people to fight or at least form a
> block against vampires and a return of virus. I think their motivation was
> to find someone who could and would fight virus. Trading with us, the
> Coalition, the Hivers most definitely do. Things that can't be made in the
> Coalition like TL-14 focal arrays, compact fusion plants, J-4 and 5 drives
> and advanced sensors. But more than this I think they bring in high-tech
> consumer goods and techs to teach us how to use and maintain the gear we
> find and they bring to the Coalition.
>
> If the Coalition is going to expand then more ships are needed BADLY. A
> fast way to expand both civilian and military ship construction would be to
> have the four class B starports turn out spaceships capable of being
> refitted into starships, just slap a third computer, extra fuel tanks and a
> J-drive onto the spaceship and you have a starship. Admittedly no one is
> going to want a TL-9 J-Hawk from Oriflamme when they could have a TL-11 one
> from Kruyter, but if Oriflamme bought a J-2/3 drive from Aubaine for their
> starship then why not buy more advanced sensors and weapons as well.
> Merchant rule number one: pride goes out the window before profit.
>
> I would like to see a TL-10 J-Hawk built on Trybec with a J-3 drive from
> Aubaine and sensors and weapons from TL-11 Eos, or a TL-12 Shukugan SDB
> with a 1-200 ton section welded on and sporting TL-14 weapons and sensors
> from the Hivers
>
> Roger
>
>
Ancients on the archaeological & forensic evidence alone. If there are
Droyne worlds in the Federation, they would also know generally everything
known in the Imperium from coyns to the racial memory.
Generally speaking, I think the idea was Droyne would be looked at like
anyone else either integrated into the Coalition or exterior to it with
distinctions being cultural flavoring & idiosyncrasies, though also begs
the guys in suits & how alien are the aliens discussions.
Hivers attempting manipulations on Droyne nests sounds like fun.
On Tue, Feb 17, 2015, 06:32 [Traveller_TNE] <
> wrote:
>
>
> I do agree that the Hivers must have made contact with the Droyne worlds.
> The thing here is motivation. The Droyne seem to me to be, well sort of
> stretched-back-take-things-as-they-come kind of race. Their genetic memory
> would be passed on to the next generation. I say this as they don't seem
> to want to expand and make multiple colonies and finally an empire.
>
> Hivers were looking for allies and people to fight or at least form a
> block against vampires and a return of virus. I think their motivation was
> to find someone who could and would fight virus. Trading with us, the
> Coalition, the Hivers most definitely do. Things that can't be made in the
> Coalition like TL-14 focal arrays, compact fusion plants, J-4 and 5 drives
> and advanced sensors. But more than this I think they bring in high-tech
> consumer goods and techs to teach us how to use and maintain the gear we
> find and they bring to the Coalition.
>
> If the Coalition is going to expand then more ships are needed BADLY. A
> fast way to expand both civilian and military ship construction would be to
> have the four class B starports turn out spaceships capable of being
> refitted into starships, just slap a third computer, extra fuel tanks and a
> J-drive onto the spaceship and you have a starship. Admittedly no one is
> going to want a TL-9 J-Hawk from Oriflamme when they could have a TL-11 one
> from Kruyter, but if Oriflamme bought a J-2/3 drive from Aubaine for their
> starship then why not buy more advanced sensors and weapons as well.
> Merchant rule number one: pride goes out the window before profit.
>
> I would like to see a TL-10 J-Hawk built on Trybec with a J-3 drive from
> Aubaine and sensors and weapons from TL-11 Eos, or a TL-12 Shukugan SDB
> with a 1-200 ton section welded on and sporting TL-14 weapons and sensors
> from the Hivers
>
> Roger
>
>