Maybe some aerodynamic lift too?
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On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:18, "DEREK STANLEY [Traveller_TNE]" <> wrote:
> I agree it was an issue I was pointing out to a group I game with. However if you look at the above and below water structures of a modern cruise ship they're ridiculously top heavy too.
>
> My thing is what the hell are they using for lift because there's not nearly enough airbag to support that much mass. I'm running a space 1889 game, perhaps Dassault had a Liftwood supply they're not talking about.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 12:46, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yikes. That pictures scares the hell out of me. It's a gorgeous picture,
>> and good Traveller fodder, but the reference to Dassault requires me to
>> think of it real-world, and that makes me very unhappy. The CG (center of
>> gravity, not contra-gravity) on that thing is way out of whack, and if it
>> isn't, the envelope is way too small. Zeps all carry water ballast, but
>> they never carry up at the very top as it would be too unstable. So to get
>> the CG far enough down they've got a lot more ballast at the bottom, and
>> that envelope can't carry enough hydrogen, let alone helium, to float it.
>> Unless Dassault is advertising its new CG (contra-gravity, not center of
>> gravity) invention, that sucker is going to roll and all that water and
>> all those nice tourists are going to get dumped. It's probably also pretty
>> cold up there to be strolling around the Promenade Deck.
>>
>> I found three links below (and by the way, the first one has a much larger
>> version of the picture in DED's link, which I like) all in Norwegian, so
>> maybe Roger can tell us if it's just happy retro wool-gathering (like Doc
>> Savage climbing aboard his Zep attached to the Empire State Building
>> mooring mast--that didn't work out either) or if Dassault figures that
>> Richard Branson is having too much fun killing people and they want in on
>> the fun.
>>
>> http://www.vg.no/forbruker/reise/luftfart/luftens-fremtidige-cruiseskip/a/23269543/
>>
>> http://travelnews.no/2014/08/10/fly/fremtidens-cruiseskip-luften/
>>
>> http://travelnews.no/tag/luftskip/
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I stumbled across this ad for Dassault Systemes recently and my first
>> > thought was Traveller! The link brings you to a picture of the cruise
>> > ship without all the distracting text.
>> >
>> > http://static.travelnews.no/uploads/2014/08/Luftskip.jpg
>> >
>> > \_/
>> > DED
>> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
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On 25 Jan 2015, at 13:18, "DEREK STANLEY [Traveller_TNE]" <> wrote:
> I agree it was an issue I was pointing out to a group I game with. However if you look at the above and below water structures of a modern cruise ship they're ridiculously top heavy too.
>
> My thing is what the hell are they using for lift because there's not nearly enough airbag to support that much mass. I'm running a space 1889 game, perhaps Dassault had a Liftwood supply they're not talking about.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPhone...
>
> On Jan 24, 2015, at 12:46, [Traveller_TNE] <> wrote:
>
>>
>> Yikes. That pictures scares the hell out of me. It's a gorgeous picture,
>> and good Traveller fodder, but the reference to Dassault requires me to
>> think of it real-world, and that makes me very unhappy. The CG (center of
>> gravity, not contra-gravity) on that thing is way out of whack, and if it
>> isn't, the envelope is way too small. Zeps all carry water ballast, but
>> they never carry up at the very top as it would be too unstable. So to get
>> the CG far enough down they've got a lot more ballast at the bottom, and
>> that envelope can't carry enough hydrogen, let alone helium, to float it.
>> Unless Dassault is advertising its new CG (contra-gravity, not center of
>> gravity) invention, that sucker is going to roll and all that water and
>> all those nice tourists are going to get dumped. It's probably also pretty
>> cold up there to be strolling around the Promenade Deck.
>>
>> I found three links below (and by the way, the first one has a much larger
>> version of the picture in DED's link, which I like) all in Norwegian, so
>> maybe Roger can tell us if it's just happy retro wool-gathering (like Doc
>> Savage climbing aboard his Zep attached to the Empire State Building
>> mooring mast--that didn't work out either) or if Dassault figures that
>> Richard Branson is having too much fun killing people and they want in on
>> the fun.
>>
>> http://www.vg.no/forbruker/reise/luftfart/luftens-fremtidige-cruiseskip/a/23269543/
>>
>> http://travelnews.no/2014/08/10/fly/fremtidens-cruiseskip-luften/
>>
>> http://travelnews.no/tag/luftskip/
>>
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I stumbled across this ad for Dassault Systemes recently and my first
>> > thought was Traveller! The link brings you to a picture of the cruise
>> > ship without all the distracting text.
>> >
>> > http://static.travelnews.no/uploads/2014/08/Luftskip.jpg
>> >
>> > \_/
>> > DED
>> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>