Oh yeah, light would be iron man around 7-8 ft tall and much bulkier, but
roughly human proportioned. Think somewhere between Shaq & Andre the Giant.
LoL
Heavy like the Heinlein description of a steel hydrocephalic gorilla. Your
hulk buster/igor from IM3 analogy definitely works.
I don't use medium myself other ambiguous intermediary between the two.
I see both with a great helm with fixed neck and rather large gorget to
take head shots without breaking their neck from blunt force trauma.
Neither would be able to turn their head though cameras or turning
shoulders and/or waist...
- Sent from my SM-N900T
That's not battle dress, that's unpowered combat armour.
That's kind of stock trooper armour IMO, the scout armour would be lighter,
smaller more flexible and assault trooper armour would be bulkier, perhaps
even with power assist but not "battle dress".
Battle dress would likely come in 3 versions as well light, medium, heavy.
The light and medium stuff would be more anthropomorphic, friendly stuff.
The heavy battle dress would IMO be shit your pants scary looking stuff
that while it's bilaterally symmetrical could never be confused for a
person in a dark alley as the lighter stuff could. With the advent of
compact gravitic technology you could have some parkour fun in battle
dress. 😄
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
Lots of gaps in that. I take battledress to be 100% interlocking
coverage. Like plate armor made of crystal iron or superdense alloys.
powered, of course
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On Apr 21, 2014 7:12 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
>
>
> I assume you mean something like...
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Gunner-392717625
>
> That. To be honest that's kind of what I see the bulk of A-C tech
> military dressed in with that being more the TL10-11 stuff and the ODST
> armor from Halo being more the TL12 end of things.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:56 PM, charles popp <> wrote:
>
>
>
> Plus you have to add in Combat Armor,ie unpowered Battledress
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mk 1 mod 1 pg 41
>>
>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:50 PM, "Master Uxi" <> wrote:
>>
>>> FFS skeletons with an example start at TL 10. At work so can't check
>>> now, but can get a page number later.
>>>
>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:48 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've got the Big Blue Book, BBB, that combines a bunch of the LBB's
>>>> together and it lists TL13, D-tech. I'm fairly certain, TNE / FF&S makes
>>>> TL12, C-tech, battle dress available.
>>>>
>>>> Derek Stanley
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What books and/or tables are you seeing that in for MT?
>>>>
>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 3:02 PM, "Edward Swatschek" <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In CT/MT battledress was introduced at TL 13. T4 introduces it at TL
>>>>> 12 (the setting's max TL). Ultimately, I think the Rule of Cool applies -
>>>>> battledress is a Traveller staple, so battledress will be available, even
>>>>> if you have to retcon it in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-04-21, 9:23, Master Uxi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be an interesting tidbit. Anyone have the LBB to check?
>>>>>
>>>>> Battledress is really limited in its utility before TL 12 or so, it
>>>>> seems. The penalties are really high and the damage they deal more limited
>>>>> (unless small 0.1 to 1-2 kt nuclear warheads are in play which is very
>>>>> Heinlein). TL 14-15 start looking more Iron Man.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would seem more consistent for the Vilani to have battledress, but
>>>>> to have it in a doctrinally stratified role while the TC could be using it
>>>>> in more imaginative ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the Vilani used meteoric assault, for example, but factional
>>>>> and/or bureaux rivalries wouldn't allow it flight, or even jump jets
>>>>> (though any ability at stuck would be very limited by TL anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 7:58 AM, "D. Stanley" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d imagine that they all had it, up to about TL13 it’s probably rare
>>>>>> as hell, elite assault troops and such. Beyond that it’s probably much
>>>>>> more general issue. But I’m unaware of any official references to it. I
>>>>>> think LBB doesn’t introduce Battle Dress till TL13.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Edward Swatschek -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
roughly human proportioned. Think somewhere between Shaq & Andre the Giant.
LoL
Heavy like the Heinlein description of a steel hydrocephalic gorilla. Your
hulk buster/igor from IM3 analogy definitely works.
I don't use medium myself other ambiguous intermediary between the two.
I see both with a great helm with fixed neck and rather large gorget to
take head shots without breaking their neck from blunt force trauma.
Neither would be able to turn their head though cameras or turning
shoulders and/or waist...
- Sent from my SM-N900T
That's not battle dress, that's unpowered combat armour.
That's kind of stock trooper armour IMO, the scout armour would be lighter,
smaller more flexible and assault trooper armour would be bulkier, perhaps
even with power assist but not "battle dress".
Battle dress would likely come in 3 versions as well light, medium, heavy.
The light and medium stuff would be more anthropomorphic, friendly stuff.
The heavy battle dress would IMO be shit your pants scary looking stuff
that while it's bilaterally symmetrical could never be confused for a
person in a dark alley as the lighter stuff could. With the advent of
compact gravitic technology you could have some parkour fun in battle
dress. 😄
Derek Stanley
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 21, 2014, at 7:16 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
Lots of gaps in that. I take battledress to be 100% interlocking
coverage. Like plate armor made of crystal iron or superdense alloys.
powered, of course
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On Apr 21, 2014 7:12 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
>
>
> I assume you mean something like...
>
> http://www.deviantart.com/art/Gunner-392717625
>
> That. To be honest that's kind of what I see the bulk of A-C tech
> military dressed in with that being more the TL10-11 stuff and the ODST
> armor from Halo being more the TL12 end of things.
>
> Derek Stanley
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 21, 2014, at 6:56 PM, charles popp <> wrote:
>
>
>
> Plus you have to add in Combat Armor,ie unpowered Battledress
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Mk 1 mod 1 pg 41
>>
>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:50 PM, "Master Uxi" <> wrote:
>>
>>> FFS skeletons with an example start at TL 10. At work so can't check
>>> now, but can get a page number later.
>>>
>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:48 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've got the Big Blue Book, BBB, that combines a bunch of the LBB's
>>>> together and it lists TL13, D-tech. I'm fairly certain, TNE / FF&S makes
>>>> TL12, C-tech, battle dress available.
>>>>
>>>> Derek Stanley
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What books and/or tables are you seeing that in for MT?
>>>>
>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 3:02 PM, "Edward Swatschek" <>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In CT/MT battledress was introduced at TL 13. T4 introduces it at TL
>>>>> 12 (the setting's max TL). Ultimately, I think the Rule of Cool applies -
>>>>> battledress is a Traveller staple, so battledress will be available, even
>>>>> if you have to retcon it in.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2014-04-21, 9:23, Master Uxi wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That would be an interesting tidbit. Anyone have the LBB to check?
>>>>>
>>>>> Battledress is really limited in its utility before TL 12 or so, it
>>>>> seems. The penalties are really high and the damage they deal more limited
>>>>> (unless small 0.1 to 1-2 kt nuclear warheads are in play which is very
>>>>> Heinlein). TL 14-15 start looking more Iron Man.
>>>>>
>>>>> It would seem more consistent for the Vilani to have battledress, but
>>>>> to have it in a doctrinally stratified role while the TC could be using it
>>>>> in more imaginative ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps the Vilani used meteoric assault, for example, but factional
>>>>> and/or bureaux rivalries wouldn't allow it flight, or even jump jets
>>>>> (though any ability at stuck would be very limited by TL anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 7:58 AM, "D. Stanley" <> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’d imagine that they all had it, up to about TL13 it’s probably rare
>>>>>> as hell, elite assault troops and such. Beyond that it’s probably much
>>>>>> more general issue. But I’m unaware of any official references to it. I
>>>>>> think LBB doesn’t introduce Battle Dress till TL13.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Edward Swatschek -
>>>>>
>>>>>
>