Plus you have to add in Combat Armor,ie unpowered Battledress
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
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> Mk 1 mod 1 pg 41
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> - Sent from my SM-N900T
> On Apr 21, 2014 4:50 PM, "Master Uxi" <> wrote:
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>> FFS skeletons with an example start at TL 10. At work so can't check
>> now, but can get a page number later.
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>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:48 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
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>>> I've got the Big Blue Book, BBB, that combines a bunch of the LBB's
>>> together and it lists TL13, D-tech. I'm fairly certain, TNE / FF&S makes
>>> TL12, C-tech, battle dress available.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
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>>> What books and/or tables are you seeing that in for MT?
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>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>> On Apr 21, 2014 3:02 PM, "Edward Swatschek" <>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> In CT/MT battledress was introduced at TL 13. T4 introduces it at TL
>>>> 12 (the setting's max TL). Ultimately, I think the Rule of Cool applies -
>>>> battledress is a Traveller staple, so battledress will be available, even
>>>> if you have to retcon it in.
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>>>> On 2014-04-21, 9:23, Master Uxi wrote:
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>>>> That would be an interesting tidbit. Anyone have the LBB to check?
>>>>
>>>> Battledress is really limited in its utility before TL 12 or so, it
>>>> seems. The penalties are really high and the damage they deal more limited
>>>> (unless small 0.1 to 1-2 kt nuclear warheads are in play which is very
>>>> Heinlein). TL 14-15 start looking more Iron Man.
>>>>
>>>> It would seem more consistent for the Vilani to have battledress, but
>>>> to have it in a doctrinally stratified role while the TC could be using it
>>>> in more imaginative ways.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the Vilani used meteoric assault, for example, but factional
>>>> and/or bureaux rivalries wouldn't allow it flight, or even jump jets
>>>> (though any ability at stuck would be very limited by TL anyway.
>>>>
>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 7:58 AM, "D. Stanley" <> wrote:
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>>>>> I’d imagine that they all had it, up to about TL13 it’s probably rare
>>>>> as hell, elite assault troops and such. Beyond that it’s probably much
>>>>> more general issue. But I’m unaware of any official references to it. I
>>>>> think LBB doesn’t introduce Battle Dress till TL13.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Edward Swatschek -
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On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
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> Mk 1 mod 1 pg 41
>
> - Sent from my SM-N900T
> On Apr 21, 2014 4:50 PM, "Master Uxi" <> wrote:
>
>> FFS skeletons with an example start at TL 10. At work so can't check
>> now, but can get a page number later.
>>
>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>> On Apr 21, 2014 4:48 PM, "DEREK STANLEY" <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've got the Big Blue Book, BBB, that combines a bunch of the LBB's
>>> together and it lists TL13, D-tech. I'm fairly certain, TNE / FF&S makes
>>> TL12, C-tech, battle dress available.
>>>
>>> Derek Stanley
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Apr 21, 2014, at 4:32 PM, Master Uxi <> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What books and/or tables are you seeing that in for MT?
>>>
>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>> On Apr 21, 2014 3:02 PM, "Edward Swatschek" <>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In CT/MT battledress was introduced at TL 13. T4 introduces it at TL
>>>> 12 (the setting's max TL). Ultimately, I think the Rule of Cool applies -
>>>> battledress is a Traveller staple, so battledress will be available, even
>>>> if you have to retcon it in.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-04-21, 9:23, Master Uxi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That would be an interesting tidbit. Anyone have the LBB to check?
>>>>
>>>> Battledress is really limited in its utility before TL 12 or so, it
>>>> seems. The penalties are really high and the damage they deal more limited
>>>> (unless small 0.1 to 1-2 kt nuclear warheads are in play which is very
>>>> Heinlein). TL 14-15 start looking more Iron Man.
>>>>
>>>> It would seem more consistent for the Vilani to have battledress, but
>>>> to have it in a doctrinally stratified role while the TC could be using it
>>>> in more imaginative ways.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps the Vilani used meteoric assault, for example, but factional
>>>> and/or bureaux rivalries wouldn't allow it flight, or even jump jets
>>>> (though any ability at stuck would be very limited by TL anyway.
>>>>
>>>> - Sent from my SM-N900T
>>>> On Apr 21, 2014 7:58 AM, "D. Stanley" <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I’d imagine that they all had it, up to about TL13 it’s probably rare
>>>>> as hell, elite assault troops and such. Beyond that it’s probably much
>>>>> more general issue. But I’m unaware of any official references to it. I
>>>>> think LBB doesn’t introduce Battle Dress till TL13.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Edward Swatschek -
>>>>
>>>>
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