I never read it as saying anything but that you were designing the suit and not worrying about the weight of the person in it or what the person carried. On page 41 of FF&S Mk1 Mod1 under the 'Powered Exoskeletons' table it says beside MM, "Maximum mass of *the suit*", so I thought it was clear you were designing the suit and disregarding the person and any carried weapons or equipment which would encumber the character in the normal way (except, of course, your strength is double so you can carry more).
You're simply designing the suit and anything *integral* to it.
All the examples make that pretty clear as well. The weight of the person is beyond the scope for the purposes of the design. I guess you're assuming the exoskeleton is capable of carrying that weight of a person.
--- In , dcndcn13@... wrote:
>
> I recall that design sequence being a little thin, and done quickly.
> Could/should have been beefed up later.
>
> > The game mechanic of how to use it is a bit flawed. Each suit of
> > battledress
> > has a total mass it can carry before it is overloaded with an absolute
> > upper
> > limit, it also doubles the wielders strength stat (hence some of my
> > marines
> > wielding battleaxes) and gives unlimited endurance while the power lasts.
> > So
> > far so good
> >
> >
> >
> > But is the suits mass limit the total that can be included, which in many
> > cases appears to mean no allowance for the trooper or other equipment or
> > does the troopers strength itself add to total load capacity
> >
> >
> >
> > For example, this is the standard TL14 from the TNE rulebook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Base Battledress - Standard Light TL14
> >
> >
> >
> > Description
> >
> > TL14 Standard Light
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Component
> >
> > Volume
> >
> > Mass
> >
> > Power
> >
> > Area
> >
> > Price
> >
> > Battery Output
> >
> > 0.210000
> >
> >
> > TL14 Light Powered Exoskeleton
> >
> > 0.050000
> >
> > 210,000
> >
> > 10 hour draw
> >
> > 0.021000
> >
> >
> > Armour - Full Torso AV8
> >
> > 0.014400
> >
> > 2,664
> >
> > 100 hour draw
> >
> > 0.004200
> >
> >
> > Armour - Arms AV8
> >
> > 0.004800
> >
> > 888
> >
> >
> >
> > Armour - Legs AV8
> >
> > 0.014400
> >
> > 2,664
> >
> >
> >
> > Armour - Visored Helm AV8
> >
> > 0.002400
> >
> > 444
> >
> >
> >
> > TL10+ Helmet Sensor Suite
> >
> > 750
> >
> >
> >
> > Battery (100 hour endurance)
> >
> > 0.084000
> >
> > 0.210000
> >
> > -0.004200
> >
> > 840
> >
> >
> >
> > Power Requirement
> >
> > 0.004144
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Totals
> >
> > 0.296000
> >
> > tons
> >
> > 218,250
> >
> > Cr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spare Mass
> >
> > 0.004000
> >
> > tons
> >
> >
> >
> > 4.000000
> >
> > kg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Power consumed
> >
> > 0.004144
> >
> > Mw
> >
> >
> >
> > Surplus power
> >
> > 0.000056
> >
> > Mw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks like if you add a 70kg troops the suit is automatically moved to
> > an
> > overloaded rating. Or add a fairly light weapon. Etc. Add life support
> > same
> > thing. Also a right pain trying to work out battery endurance if an energy
> > consuming item is added that draws off the same battery. (Fuel celled
> > versions are much more efficient)
> >
> >
> >
> > Antony
> >
> >
> >
> > From: []
> > On Behalf Of Evyn MacDude
> > Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012 11:11 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Marketing personality
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:35 PM, <dcndcn13@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > We did do a design sequence for powered armor somewhere, didn't we?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, yes you did.....
> >
> > --
> > Evyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5097 - Release Date: 06/27/12
> >
> >
>
You're simply designing the suit and anything *integral* to it.
All the examples make that pretty clear as well. The weight of the person is beyond the scope for the purposes of the design. I guess you're assuming the exoskeleton is capable of carrying that weight of a person.
--- In , dcndcn13@... wrote:
>
> I recall that design sequence being a little thin, and done quickly.
> Could/should have been beefed up later.
>
> > The game mechanic of how to use it is a bit flawed. Each suit of
> > battledress
> > has a total mass it can carry before it is overloaded with an absolute
> > upper
> > limit, it also doubles the wielders strength stat (hence some of my
> > marines
> > wielding battleaxes) and gives unlimited endurance while the power lasts.
> > So
> > far so good
> >
> >
> >
> > But is the suits mass limit the total that can be included, which in many
> > cases appears to mean no allowance for the trooper or other equipment or
> > does the troopers strength itself add to total load capacity
> >
> >
> >
> > For example, this is the standard TL14 from the TNE rulebook
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Base Battledress - Standard Light TL14
> >
> >
> >
> > Description
> >
> > TL14 Standard Light
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Component
> >
> > Volume
> >
> > Mass
> >
> > Power
> >
> > Area
> >
> > Price
> >
> > Battery Output
> >
> > 0.210000
> >
> >
> > TL14 Light Powered Exoskeleton
> >
> > 0.050000
> >
> > 210,000
> >
> > 10 hour draw
> >
> > 0.021000
> >
> >
> > Armour - Full Torso AV8
> >
> > 0.014400
> >
> > 2,664
> >
> > 100 hour draw
> >
> > 0.004200
> >
> >
> > Armour - Arms AV8
> >
> > 0.004800
> >
> > 888
> >
> >
> >
> > Armour - Legs AV8
> >
> > 0.014400
> >
> > 2,664
> >
> >
> >
> > Armour - Visored Helm AV8
> >
> > 0.002400
> >
> > 444
> >
> >
> >
> > TL10+ Helmet Sensor Suite
> >
> > 750
> >
> >
> >
> > Battery (100 hour endurance)
> >
> > 0.084000
> >
> > 0.210000
> >
> > -0.004200
> >
> > 840
> >
> >
> >
> > Power Requirement
> >
> > 0.004144
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Totals
> >
> > 0.296000
> >
> > tons
> >
> > 218,250
> >
> > Cr
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Spare Mass
> >
> > 0.004000
> >
> > tons
> >
> >
> >
> > 4.000000
> >
> > kg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Power consumed
> >
> > 0.004144
> >
> > Mw
> >
> >
> >
> > Surplus power
> >
> > 0.000056
> >
> > Mw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks like if you add a 70kg troops the suit is automatically moved to
> > an
> > overloaded rating. Or add a fairly light weapon. Etc. Add life support
> > same
> > thing. Also a right pain trying to work out battery endurance if an energy
> > consuming item is added that draws off the same battery. (Fuel celled
> > versions are much more efficient)
> >
> >
> >
> > Antony
> >
> >
> >
> > From: []
> > On Behalf Of Evyn MacDude
> > Sent: Friday, 29 June 2012 11:11 AM
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Marketing personality
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 5:35 PM, <dcndcn13@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > We did do a design sequence for powered armor somewhere, didn't we?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, yes you did.....
> >
> > --
> > Evyn
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > No virus found in this message.
> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> > Version: 2012.0.2178 / Virus Database: 2437/5097 - Release Date: 06/27/12
> >
> >
>