> On the subject of accents - we have a lot of them in the British Isles - I
> think maybe because of the length of settlement.
That's sort of what I've always figured. Perhaps you have more people who
study dialects over there, or at least the ability to give better names to
accents. I was just reading that linguists over here were discovering a
"Northern Cities vowel shift" where speakers (Chicago west past Wisconsin,
east past New York) are pronouncing a vowel differently, which is then
causing them to pronounce all of their other vowels differently. Kind of
interesting. But not only the name "Northern Cities," but even the breadth
of distribution don't seem to have the same sense of place as English
accents. But whatever, I'm off-topic.
> I was wrong, definitely not a Scouse accent. His name is Tom Wilkinson,
> and I think the accent is South-West of England - might be Somerset, as I
> found a reference to him retiring to Somerset in an online copy of Navy
> News.
>
> On the subject of accents - we have a lot of them in the British Isles - I
> think maybe because of the length of settlement.
>
>
> Eamon
>
>
>
> ________________________________
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2012, 23:10
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Sailor--STILL OFF TOPIC
>
>
> Â
> Yeah, I was wondering about Liverpool, especially with its maritime
> history. For example, he would pronounce "love" as "loov," like the
> Beatles would, but overall his accent seemed more distinctive and less
> fluid than that. It seems like there are a lot of very precise names for
> accents in England Proper (RP, Cheshire, Geordie, Yorkshire, Scouse,
> etc.), not even going into Welsh, Scots, Irish, whereas I'm not sure if I
> can tell the difference between a Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, or South
> Carolina (although perhaps I should).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPpAR1Swok
>
> You can see him starting at 13:04, he's the balding NCO.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsdBsiXtXaA
>
> Here's one of his star turns starting at 09:00, "I'll have your goots for
> gaahters." If you start a little before that (08:32) you'll get the great
> scene of the skipper trying to sort his ship out, asking, "What part of it
> isn't working?" If you keep watching for a few minutes you'll see more of
> the Fleet MAA, as well as the skipper patiently dealing with his ship
> falling apart around him. "That's not working either." "Don't report the
> port outer anymore. We'll just forget it. I don't want any more chit-chat
> about the port outer."
>
> Great series.
>
> think maybe because of the length of settlement.
That's sort of what I've always figured. Perhaps you have more people who
study dialects over there, or at least the ability to give better names to
accents. I was just reading that linguists over here were discovering a
"Northern Cities vowel shift" where speakers (Chicago west past Wisconsin,
east past New York) are pronouncing a vowel differently, which is then
causing them to pronounce all of their other vowels differently. Kind of
interesting. But not only the name "Northern Cities," but even the breadth
of distribution don't seem to have the same sense of place as English
accents. But whatever, I'm off-topic.
> I was wrong, definitely not a Scouse accent. His name is Tom Wilkinson,
> and I think the accent is South-West of England - might be Somerset, as I
> found a reference to him retiring to Somerset in an online copy of Navy
> News.
>
> On the subject of accents - we have a lot of them in the British Isles - I
> think maybe because of the length of settlement.
>
>
> Eamon
>
>
>
> ________________________________
Sent: Tuesday, 11 September 2012, 23:10
Subject: Re: [Traveller_TNE] Sailor--STILL OFF TOPIC
>
>
> Â
> Yeah, I was wondering about Liverpool, especially with its maritime
> history. For example, he would pronounce "love" as "loov," like the
> Beatles would, but overall his accent seemed more distinctive and less
> fluid than that. It seems like there are a lot of very precise names for
> accents in England Proper (RP, Cheshire, Geordie, Yorkshire, Scouse,
> etc.), not even going into Welsh, Scots, Irish, whereas I'm not sure if I
> can tell the difference between a Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, or South
> Carolina (although perhaps I should).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YPpAR1Swok
>
> You can see him starting at 13:04, he's the balding NCO.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsdBsiXtXaA
>
> Here's one of his star turns starting at 09:00, "I'll have your goots for
> gaahters." If you start a little before that (08:32) you'll get the great
> scene of the skipper trying to sort his ship out, asking, "What part of it
> isn't working?" If you keep watching for a few minutes you'll see more of
> the Fleet MAA, as well as the skipper patiently dealing with his ship
> falling apart around him. "That's not working either." "Don't report the
> port outer anymore. We'll just forget it. I don't want any more chit-chat
> about the port outer."
>
> Great series.
>