;)
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:29 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <
> wrote:
>
>
> No. It started with the inane "Go Duke" post. I mean, C'mon. Do we really
> have to spread that NCAA nonsense here? It's not like there aren't a
> thousand other message boards and media outlets dedicated to drooling over
> the country's obsession with March Madness.
>
> But I let it go because it ran its course in just a few emails. And
> someone swung the conversation back to Traveller with a reference to sports
> in Traveller and another went with collegiate alliances compared to MT
> tribalism or some such.
>
> But then the conversation exploded into other outside topics. And I let it
> go because someone was always steering it back to Traveller. But then it
> didn't. And after a week, I felt it was time to step in.
>
> References to other sci-fi books, films, and TV shows are fine, if how it
> relates to Traveller is the subject of the discussion. Talk about how
> Traveller borrows/steals/or was inspired by this thing from that book or TV
> show. Or how you'd like to introduce some element from some book into the
> TU but aren't sure how to build it using FF&S. That's all fine because
> Traveller remains the focal point. But when you start debating the merits
> of this plot contrivance from a TV show or the screw ups of a particular
> director of a film, I have to draw the line. We're NOT going to have that
> here! There are a thousand different message boards and fan forums where
> people do that every hour of every day. How many message boards do you have
> to talk about TNE? Of those, how many are troll-free? I'm not going to have
> this forum drown in giant sci-fi franchise chatter.
>
> If you guys really want to do it, set up a YahooGroup called "TNE Fans
> Talk About Stuff". I'll even capture the group's membership in a
> spreadsheet and gladly send it to whomever starts it up so that he/she can
> send out the invitations. It's the least I can do for being such a killjoy.
>
> \_/
> DED
> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>
>
>
> ---In , <> wrote :
>
> I'm probably at least partially if not wholly to blame for that, with the
> "Star Trek had good visualizations for different alien races' starship
> designs." Where that related to Traveller was my wish to do more along
> those lines. Since Traveller had common starship design rules it was
> harder to say "Federation uses phasers, Klingons use disruptors, Romulans
> use plasma weapons," so any differences had to be a lot less
> deterministic.
>
> I made the Hiver ships shoeboxes because it was a clear way of saying,
> "we're not going down there, we're sending bots and Ithklur." Most of
> everything else was just artistic embellishment of common forms, Aslan
> being swoopy, Vargr being spiky, etc.
>
> And then there was the clear violation of "what it would really be." With
> everything beyond a certain level covered with stealthy EM emissions
> management there would be no such thing as ship markings or paint schemes,
> except that was no fun. People like Osprey books with color profiles and
> there's no way to do that when a ship could be an "Eat at Joe's" marquee
> one second, a countershaded starfield the next, and the family coat of
> arms after that. Since saying "ships have paint schemes" was more fun and
> Traveller had already said things like there being traditional pirate
> color schemes, we stuck with something that made no sense and tried not to
> talk about it.
>
> > I've indulged you guys long enough. Please stop with all of the Star
> Wars,
> > Star Trek, Hollywood, this director sucks, this movie was great but that
> > one sucks, etc. etc. stuff. Please take it off-list. I believe that you
> > all have your each other's emails by now.
> >
> > \_/
> > DED
> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 9:29 AM, [Traveller_TNE] <
> wrote:
>
>
> No. It started with the inane "Go Duke" post. I mean, C'mon. Do we really
> have to spread that NCAA nonsense here? It's not like there aren't a
> thousand other message boards and media outlets dedicated to drooling over
> the country's obsession with March Madness.
>
> But I let it go because it ran its course in just a few emails. And
> someone swung the conversation back to Traveller with a reference to sports
> in Traveller and another went with collegiate alliances compared to MT
> tribalism or some such.
>
> But then the conversation exploded into other outside topics. And I let it
> go because someone was always steering it back to Traveller. But then it
> didn't. And after a week, I felt it was time to step in.
>
> References to other sci-fi books, films, and TV shows are fine, if how it
> relates to Traveller is the subject of the discussion. Talk about how
> Traveller borrows/steals/or was inspired by this thing from that book or TV
> show. Or how you'd like to introduce some element from some book into the
> TU but aren't sure how to build it using FF&S. That's all fine because
> Traveller remains the focal point. But when you start debating the merits
> of this plot contrivance from a TV show or the screw ups of a particular
> director of a film, I have to draw the line. We're NOT going to have that
> here! There are a thousand different message boards and fan forums where
> people do that every hour of every day. How many message boards do you have
> to talk about TNE? Of those, how many are troll-free? I'm not going to have
> this forum drown in giant sci-fi franchise chatter.
>
> If you guys really want to do it, set up a YahooGroup called "TNE Fans
> Talk About Stuff". I'll even capture the group's membership in a
> spreadsheet and gladly send it to whomever starts it up so that he/she can
> send out the invitations. It's the least I can do for being such a killjoy.
>
> \_/
> DED
> TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
>
>
>
> ---In , <> wrote :
>
> I'm probably at least partially if not wholly to blame for that, with the
> "Star Trek had good visualizations for different alien races' starship
> designs." Where that related to Traveller was my wish to do more along
> those lines. Since Traveller had common starship design rules it was
> harder to say "Federation uses phasers, Klingons use disruptors, Romulans
> use plasma weapons," so any differences had to be a lot less
> deterministic.
>
> I made the Hiver ships shoeboxes because it was a clear way of saying,
> "we're not going down there, we're sending bots and Ithklur." Most of
> everything else was just artistic embellishment of common forms, Aslan
> being swoopy, Vargr being spiky, etc.
>
> And then there was the clear violation of "what it would really be." With
> everything beyond a certain level covered with stealthy EM emissions
> management there would be no such thing as ship markings or paint schemes,
> except that was no fun. People like Osprey books with color profiles and
> there's no way to do that when a ship could be an "Eat at Joe's" marquee
> one second, a countershaded starfield the next, and the family coat of
> arms after that. Since saying "ships have paint schemes" was more fun and
> Traveller had already said things like there being traditional pirate
> color schemes, we stuck with something that made no sense and tried not to
> talk about it.
>
> > I've indulged you guys long enough. Please stop with all of the Star
> Wars,
> > Star Trek, Hollywood, this director sucks, this movie was great but that
> > one sucks, etc. etc. stuff. Please take it off-list. I believe that you
> > all have your each other's emails by now.
> >
> > \_/
> > DED
> > TNE @ Yahoo ml Admin
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>