That's the simplest way to play it, but it depends on how much fun you
want to have. Since the local Duke operates as the 3I's in-loco-parentis
in the vacuum between worlds he could have made some deals with various
worlds on data standards, which of course no one knows about because it's
only a fine legal-technical point anyway, which would allow him to either
interdict the story or pass it through an interdiction. And no, that's not
a bribe, do you have any idea what it costs the Duke to send out all those
high-priority (J6) communications to reach those worlds before the piddly
little Xboat network?
And the libeled celeb could still recover damages, but first he'd have to
prove it wasn't false, obtained illegally, etc. And even if he did, the
data could have passed through a world that has the "Truth Will Out"
statute which says that all information is free regardless of how it's
obtained, so if the author moves there, or the publisher opens an imprint
there, they don't have to pay.
And I misspelled the made-up word "Ine Givar."
> Pretty much what I guessed, you sue on your planet, and stop publication
> / import there, you can try and sue local news formats, but once its on
> TNS or the megacorps not a lot you can do - not against their lawyers
> and the fact the news is spreading out at jump-speed, you migh never
> catch up with some of the books/articles.
>
> I suppose you could sue them on their home world or on an imperial
> subsector capital, an imperial licenced LIC firm would probaly have to
> obey that court.
>
> Cheers
> richard
>
>
>
> On 12/03/2015 21:30, [Traveller_TNE] wrote:
>>
>> Drat. Please to replace two letters, Sahib.
>>
>> "...sold at D-Z" should be "sold at E-Z"
>>
>> "...exploits Mora Montana" should be "exploits OF Mora Montana," you
>> know,
>> the girl who plays Smiley Cyprus on the Dicky Dragon Channel, except if
>> the signal is interdicted on your world. Take it up with the Sector
>> Duke.
>>
>> > This sounds like a cop-out, but "any way you want."
>> >
>> > The 3I ruled the space between worlds and gave local government carte
>> > blanche to do what they wanted within 100 PDs, read any number of
>> local
>> > horror stories. So depending upon where the book was written, where
>> the
>> > author was from, where the "libeled" celeb was from, they could scurry
>> > under various underlapping/overlapping codes. When those didn't
>> agree they
>> > could take it to the local noble, but oh noes! they're in different
>> > subsectors, so they take it to the next one.
>> >
>> > Then they get some kind of ruling where the book can't be sold at A,
>> B,
>> > and C under their laws, but is sold at D-Z under their laws, and ships
>> > carrying the books (it's an example, "they don't ship paper in the
>> > future," except when they do) to D get waylaid by various customs
>> places.
>> >
>> > Then back to real world, if the guy is a celebrity, he is a public
>> figure,
>> > so Larry Bud Melman sings about him on Entertainment Tonight every
>> night
>> > anyway, and if the stuff is all true, derived without hacking the
>> guy's
>> > 3Iphone, tough darts, and suing about it just draws more attention
>> to it,
>> > which is probably what the publisher wants, because the publisher is
>> > actually a front for Ine Giver terrorists (did you hear that, NSA?
>> > TERRORISTS) who want the locals distracted by Tri-D footage of
>> "libeled
>> > celeb" drunkenly careening down the (road?) in his white sport utility
>> > tree/car so they can insert a battalion of crack Joe thought police,
>> but
>> > fortunately the judge was ACTUALLY Dominic Flandry, who in between
>> > sleeping with your wife, calls in the Marines who nuke...something,
>> > Flandry raises a glass to what a tragic opportunist he is, and off he
>> > goes, while irradiated pages of the book waft down onto the populace
>> who
>> > are only miffed that the broadcast of the latest exploits Mora
>> Montana got
>> > interrupted.
>> >
>> > Pretty much anything you want.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Does anyone have any thoughts about how civil law works in the 3I.
>> >> Criminal law is described in JTAS etc. but what about civil law. I am
>> >> thinking about libel.
>> >>
>> >> If there was a famous celebrity on the plant zod and someone writes a
>> >> tellall book, how would the celebrity sue.
>> >>
>> >> If the book is published on the planet zod, they the celebrity
>> could sue
>> >> in the local court and get the book stopped,an dthey might be able to
>> >> ban the import of an off-world book, but what if it got onto the TNS,
>> >> the library / entertainment data network on ships, got pick-up and
>> >> re-publish by an offworld company or a mega corp. As each world has
>> its
>> >> own government, laws, and opinions about freedom of speech, decency
>> etc.
>> >> it can't be practicable to sue to every world.
>> >>
>> >> If you tried to sue the author, you might try to sue him on his
>> world,
>> >> but major publishing house might official publish their books on
>> worlds
>> >> will very high regard for freedom of speech, just like multinationals
>> >> claim residence in tax havens on earth.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone got any thoughts on how this might work?
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >> richard
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
want to have. Since the local Duke operates as the 3I's in-loco-parentis
in the vacuum between worlds he could have made some deals with various
worlds on data standards, which of course no one knows about because it's
only a fine legal-technical point anyway, which would allow him to either
interdict the story or pass it through an interdiction. And no, that's not
a bribe, do you have any idea what it costs the Duke to send out all those
high-priority (J6) communications to reach those worlds before the piddly
little Xboat network?
And the libeled celeb could still recover damages, but first he'd have to
prove it wasn't false, obtained illegally, etc. And even if he did, the
data could have passed through a world that has the "Truth Will Out"
statute which says that all information is free regardless of how it's
obtained, so if the author moves there, or the publisher opens an imprint
there, they don't have to pay.
And I misspelled the made-up word "Ine Givar."
> Pretty much what I guessed, you sue on your planet, and stop publication
> / import there, you can try and sue local news formats, but once its on
> TNS or the megacorps not a lot you can do - not against their lawyers
> and the fact the news is spreading out at jump-speed, you migh never
> catch up with some of the books/articles.
>
> I suppose you could sue them on their home world or on an imperial
> subsector capital, an imperial licenced LIC firm would probaly have to
> obey that court.
>
> Cheers
> richard
>
>
>
> On 12/03/2015 21:30, [Traveller_TNE] wrote:
>>
>> Drat. Please to replace two letters, Sahib.
>>
>> "...sold at D-Z" should be "sold at E-Z"
>>
>> "...exploits Mora Montana" should be "exploits OF Mora Montana," you
>> know,
>> the girl who plays Smiley Cyprus on the Dicky Dragon Channel, except if
>> the signal is interdicted on your world. Take it up with the Sector
>> Duke.
>>
>> > This sounds like a cop-out, but "any way you want."
>> >
>> > The 3I ruled the space between worlds and gave local government carte
>> > blanche to do what they wanted within 100 PDs, read any number of
>> local
>> > horror stories. So depending upon where the book was written, where
>> the
>> > author was from, where the "libeled" celeb was from, they could scurry
>> > under various underlapping/overlapping codes. When those didn't
>> agree they
>> > could take it to the local noble, but oh noes! they're in different
>> > subsectors, so they take it to the next one.
>> >
>> > Then they get some kind of ruling where the book can't be sold at A,
>> B,
>> > and C under their laws, but is sold at D-Z under their laws, and ships
>> > carrying the books (it's an example, "they don't ship paper in the
>> > future," except when they do) to D get waylaid by various customs
>> places.
>> >
>> > Then back to real world, if the guy is a celebrity, he is a public
>> figure,
>> > so Larry Bud Melman sings about him on Entertainment Tonight every
>> night
>> > anyway, and if the stuff is all true, derived without hacking the
>> guy's
>> > 3Iphone, tough darts, and suing about it just draws more attention
>> to it,
>> > which is probably what the publisher wants, because the publisher is
>> > actually a front for Ine Giver terrorists (did you hear that, NSA?
>> > TERRORISTS) who want the locals distracted by Tri-D footage of
>> "libeled
>> > celeb" drunkenly careening down the (road?) in his white sport utility
>> > tree/car so they can insert a battalion of crack Joe thought police,
>> but
>> > fortunately the judge was ACTUALLY Dominic Flandry, who in between
>> > sleeping with your wife, calls in the Marines who nuke...something,
>> > Flandry raises a glass to what a tragic opportunist he is, and off he
>> > goes, while irradiated pages of the book waft down onto the populace
>> who
>> > are only miffed that the broadcast of the latest exploits Mora
>> Montana got
>> > interrupted.
>> >
>> > Pretty much anything you want.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Does anyone have any thoughts about how civil law works in the 3I.
>> >> Criminal law is described in JTAS etc. but what about civil law. I am
>> >> thinking about libel.
>> >>
>> >> If there was a famous celebrity on the plant zod and someone writes a
>> >> tellall book, how would the celebrity sue.
>> >>
>> >> If the book is published on the planet zod, they the celebrity
>> could sue
>> >> in the local court and get the book stopped,an dthey might be able to
>> >> ban the import of an off-world book, but what if it got onto the TNS,
>> >> the library / entertainment data network on ships, got pick-up and
>> >> re-publish by an offworld company or a mega corp. As each world has
>> its
>> >> own government, laws, and opinions about freedom of speech, decency
>> etc.
>> >> it can't be practicable to sue to every world.
>> >>
>> >> If you tried to sue the author, you might try to sue him on his
>> world,
>> >> but major publishing house might official publish their books on
>> worlds
>> >> will very high regard for freedom of speech, just like multinationals
>> >> claim residence in tax havens on earth.
>> >>
>> >> Anyone got any thoughts on how this might work?
>> >>
>> >> cheers
>> >> richard
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>