More of a Remnant Centrist who would mitigate Aubani idealism & naivete
without just using Oriflamme for its resources and manpower and
disregarding their legitimate point of view.
F-Tech seems a good way to husband limited resources but I would prefer a
lower case federalist system.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
So you're from Oriflamme, Uxi? ;-)
Sent from my iPhone
On May 14, 2014, at 12:11 PM, "Master Uxi [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
I took F-techs as being:
1) a two way social contract. Noblesse oblige and all that while TED are
decidedly one way.
2) Mostly self sufficient and able to produce & maintain their own
technology while TED is anything but, relying on relics and scraps
Federalist sentiments equating the two should be seen as hyperbole.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On May 14, 2014 8:12 AM, "John Potter [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
>
>
> As others has pointed out its a matter of perception. A TED can be a good
> or bad ruler in my view and F-Tech rulers can also be good or bad also.
> Also I prefer a mix of both in each case this usually creates interesting
> tensions as well as morally gray space for players to live in if they
> choose to.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:47 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you ask a Federalist they would probably say there is no difference,
>> OK, I'm a Federalist, but to be honest there is a subdual difference.
>>
>> TEDs set on a throne (so to speak) and do little or nothing to support
>> the people they rule. F-Tech, at least provide some kind of service in
>> exchange for being the ruler. An example of a F-Tech, think of a world
>> that has regressed to TL-4 and has TL-12 fusion power plants. The
>> technological guild that keeps these power plants running would be a F-Tech
>> as their words would hold strong meaning to the people that need the
>> electricity to survive. Even TEDs are not all black. In PoT I remember
>> there is at least one TED that is actively working to better his people, in
>> fact Oriflamme is trying to sponsor the world for entry into the RC. Now
>> as a Federalist, I just can't resist pointing out that F-Tech Oriflamme
>> sponsors "Lancers", that are no better than pirates and raiders, well at
>> least some Flammers do.
>>
>> I guess that here you have to say actions speak louder than titles.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If the world was fair then every bad thing that has ever happened to you
> would have been deserved.
>
>
without just using Oriflamme for its resources and manpower and
disregarding their legitimate point of view.
F-Tech seems a good way to husband limited resources but I would prefer a
lower case federalist system.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
So you're from Oriflamme, Uxi? ;-)
Sent from my iPhone
On May 14, 2014, at 12:11 PM, "Master Uxi [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
I took F-techs as being:
1) a two way social contract. Noblesse oblige and all that while TED are
decidedly one way.
2) Mostly self sufficient and able to produce & maintain their own
technology while TED is anything but, relying on relics and scraps
Federalist sentiments equating the two should be seen as hyperbole.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On May 14, 2014 8:12 AM, "John Potter [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
>
>
> As others has pointed out its a matter of perception. A TED can be a good
> or bad ruler in my view and F-Tech rulers can also be good or bad also.
> Also I prefer a mix of both in each case this usually creates interesting
> tensions as well as morally gray space for players to live in if they
> choose to.
>
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 3:47 AM, [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> If you ask a Federalist they would probably say there is no difference,
>> OK, I'm a Federalist, but to be honest there is a subdual difference.
>>
>> TEDs set on a throne (so to speak) and do little or nothing to support
>> the people they rule. F-Tech, at least provide some kind of service in
>> exchange for being the ruler. An example of a F-Tech, think of a world
>> that has regressed to TL-4 and has TL-12 fusion power plants. The
>> technological guild that keeps these power plants running would be a F-Tech
>> as their words would hold strong meaning to the people that need the
>> electricity to survive. Even TEDs are not all black. In PoT I remember
>> there is at least one TED that is actively working to better his people, in
>> fact Oriflamme is trying to sponsor the world for entry into the RC. Now
>> as a Federalist, I just can't resist pointing out that F-Tech Oriflamme
>> sponsors "Lancers", that are no better than pirates and raiders, well at
>> least some Flammers do.
>>
>> I guess that here you have to say actions speak louder than titles.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If the world was fair then every bad thing that has ever happened to you
> would have been deserved.
>
>