It gives you ballpark what your players can expect to find where. It's a
guideline, though, not written in blood as who injured what the Imperials
or Solomani hid or what the Guild smuggled in, etc.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On May 9, 2014 2:28 PM, "Scott Nolan [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the responses. But doesn't that effectively just make TL a
> worthless concept? If a character wants a piece of TL 12 gear and can
> easily obtain it, what point is there in saying that Oriflamme (or any
> world in the RC) is of a lower TL? Who cares if the locals all use TL 8
> cars and telephones if my PC always has access to the good stuff. It's the
> TL of the PC's gear that is really going to set a tone, don't you think?
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, 'D. Stanley' [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Iâve got to agree with Harold here, while TL8 stuff will be everywhere,
>> they probably mfg a small amount of TL9 and maybe even TL10 gear. TL11 and
>> 12 gear will be very available at any store, there might be a premium on
>> some of the larger items simply because of the logistics in shipping them.
>> TL13+ is going to require that you know a guy who knows a guy who found
>> something that âfell off the back of a truckâ.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have to keep in mind that these TLâs are a snapshot, a moment in time
>> and unlike the Imperium where those TLâs might exist for decades or even
>> centuries on a world the RC is ârecoveringâ and theyâre recovering fast so
>> itâs quite likely that by the time NE3 rolls about Oriflamme might be TL10
>> or 11 and Aubaine might be TL13 or 14 simply due to the nature of the beast.
>>
>>
>>
>> Realistically Aubaine might have some TL13-15 manufacturing capabilities
>> at NE1 but itâs so small it doesnât count. IE. There might be a factory
>> making TL14 tablet computers or blue tooth headsets. These would be way
>> faster and more advanced than the rest of the world is capable of making
>> but theyâre so limited in production that they cost a fortune.
>>
>>
>>
>> Iâve been harboring a strong dislike of the Tech codes for ages,
>> particularly in the TNE setting where things are changing so fast. In my
>> own things I tend to divide up the planetary capacity in terms of broad
>> categories, Medical Supplies, Weapons, Vehicles, Starships, Equipment. And
>> I might break it down further and say things like, well these guys have a
>> TL15 PRIS goggles factory thatâs operational, just for flavor.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2014 1:23 PM
>> *To:*
>> *Subject:* [Traveller_TNE] Re: Tech Levels - 'Splain them to me
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always played it such that tech level was what was "commonly
>> available and/or able to be manufactured", rather than it being a hard
>> number where nothing higher tech was available. The Imperium is/was a
>> start spanning empire where interstellar travel was very common. Sure
>> there were backwater areas and worlds that were "off limits", but how else
>> do you explain a world that has thousands of inhabitants is at TL6 with a
>> very thin, tainted atmosphere? They import the goods necessary to survive.
>>
>> Thus, in the TNE setting, a world might be TL 8, but they may have
>> everything from TL 8 to TL 15 available in terms of merchandise. The TL
>> 12 stuff might come from a nearby TL 12 world (along with some TL 11 items
>> manufactured as that world progressed--think old computers that people in
>> the West treat as near junk, but to someone in Ethiopia they are super
>> powerful PCs), TL 13-15 stuff would naturally be salvaged relic equipment
>> that would be expensive and finding spare parts could be challenging.
>> Local people would of course be making TL 8 stuff, and depending on what is
>> was (say farm equipment or tools) it would be "good, sturdy gear". Not
>> everything needs to be the latest and greatest technology--indeed locals
>> may even have a preference for the lower tech stuff.
>>
>> So if I were on Oriflamme, I'd expect that most things would be TL 8, in
>> some tech areas there was be a fair amount of TL 11-12 imported gear,
>> especially electronics (light weight, easy to ship in bulk, ask the
>> Japanese...). But if "you know a guy who knows a guy", maybe you can get
>> hold of a precious TL 14 Solomani holo projector. The rest is up to your
>> imagination and how you "make it work" for the game you are running.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
guideline, though, not written in blood as who injured what the Imperials
or Solomani hid or what the Guild smuggled in, etc.
- Sent from my SM-N900T
On May 9, 2014 2:28 PM, "Scott Nolan [Traveller_TNE]" <
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for the responses. But doesn't that effectively just make TL a
> worthless concept? If a character wants a piece of TL 12 gear and can
> easily obtain it, what point is there in saying that Oriflamme (or any
> world in the RC) is of a lower TL? Who cares if the locals all use TL 8
> cars and telephones if my PC always has access to the good stuff. It's the
> TL of the PC's gear that is really going to set a tone, don't you think?
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, 'D. Stanley' [Traveller_TNE]
> <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Iâve got to agree with Harold here, while TL8 stuff will be everywhere,
>> they probably mfg a small amount of TL9 and maybe even TL10 gear. TL11 and
>> 12 gear will be very available at any store, there might be a premium on
>> some of the larger items simply because of the logistics in shipping them.
>> TL13+ is going to require that you know a guy who knows a guy who found
>> something that âfell off the back of a truckâ.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have to keep in mind that these TLâs are a snapshot, a moment in time
>> and unlike the Imperium where those TLâs might exist for decades or even
>> centuries on a world the RC is ârecoveringâ and theyâre recovering fast so
>> itâs quite likely that by the time NE3 rolls about Oriflamme might be TL10
>> or 11 and Aubaine might be TL13 or 14 simply due to the nature of the beast.
>>
>>
>>
>> Realistically Aubaine might have some TL13-15 manufacturing capabilities
>> at NE1 but itâs so small it doesnât count. IE. There might be a factory
>> making TL14 tablet computers or blue tooth headsets. These would be way
>> faster and more advanced than the rest of the world is capable of making
>> but theyâre so limited in production that they cost a fortune.
>>
>>
>>
>> Iâve been harboring a strong dislike of the Tech codes for ages,
>> particularly in the TNE setting where things are changing so fast. In my
>> own things I tend to divide up the planetary capacity in terms of broad
>> categories, Medical Supplies, Weapons, Vehicles, Starships, Equipment. And
>> I might break it down further and say things like, well these guys have a
>> TL15 PRIS goggles factory thatâs operational, just for flavor.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [
>> ]
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 09, 2014 1:23 PM
>> *To:*
>> *Subject:* [Traveller_TNE] Re: Tech Levels - 'Splain them to me
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always played it such that tech level was what was "commonly
>> available and/or able to be manufactured", rather than it being a hard
>> number where nothing higher tech was available. The Imperium is/was a
>> start spanning empire where interstellar travel was very common. Sure
>> there were backwater areas and worlds that were "off limits", but how else
>> do you explain a world that has thousands of inhabitants is at TL6 with a
>> very thin, tainted atmosphere? They import the goods necessary to survive.
>>
>> Thus, in the TNE setting, a world might be TL 8, but they may have
>> everything from TL 8 to TL 15 available in terms of merchandise. The TL
>> 12 stuff might come from a nearby TL 12 world (along with some TL 11 items
>> manufactured as that world progressed--think old computers that people in
>> the West treat as near junk, but to someone in Ethiopia they are super
>> powerful PCs), TL 13-15 stuff would naturally be salvaged relic equipment
>> that would be expensive and finding spare parts could be challenging.
>> Local people would of course be making TL 8 stuff, and depending on what is
>> was (say farm equipment or tools) it would be "good, sturdy gear". Not
>> everything needs to be the latest and greatest technology--indeed locals
>> may even have a preference for the lower tech stuff.
>>
>> So if I were on Oriflamme, I'd expect that most things would be TL 8, in
>> some tech areas there was be a fair amount of TL 11-12 imported gear,
>> especially electronics (light weight, easy to ship in bulk, ask the
>> Japanese...). But if "you know a guy who knows a guy", maybe you can get
>> hold of a precious TL 14 Solomani holo projector. The rest is up to your
>> imagination and how you "make it work" for the game you are running.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>